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PostPosted: 17:35 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't want to feel the cold get a textile jacket.

Also if you are wearing a hoody with a leather jacket it is usually more comfortable to wear the hoodie over the jacket.

Leather jackets are no good for keeping warm in winter.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leviathan91 wrote:

urgh so they just supposed to look good? That's fucking lame.. What would you suggest to keep warm just a standard coat?


No, Its there to protect your skin when you fall off of a motorcycle. A leather jacket can look good, but its primarily for protection.

Textile jackets offer less protection but more warmth.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leviathan91 wrote:


urgh so they just supposed to look good?


No, they're supposed to be abrasion resistant and keep all your guts held together in one place when you crash.
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its doesnt work like that (you said you dont wanna pay 300 bucks and feel the cold).
You could buy a shit hot (or sick) designer t shirt for £300 but it aint gonna keep you warm is it?
Depends what you buy and what its designed for. Lots of leathers have an inner lining which you zip in for winter and remove for summer - but either way leather aint gonna keep you warm all by itself. If you want to keep warm you layer up or buy the correct gear for the job (textiles etc)
So dont be expecting a £300 jacket to keep you warm because its £300. Its £300 because of the name/styling and due to its protective properties.
But fuk keeping warm springs on its way, time to rock the leathers Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leviathan91 wrote:
I thought for £300 it would be excellent padding/protection and very very well insulated IE warm.

I didn't think it would cost £300 just because of the name, didn't think motorbike gear would be like that so much. I figured there would be more technology and quality behind it as to normal clothing.


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PostPosted: 17:51 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leviathan91 wrote:
I thought for £300 it would be excellent padding/protection and very very well insulated IE warm.


That would suck somewhat in the summer though...
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leviathan91 wrote:
I thought for £300 it would be excellent padding/protection and very very well insulated IE warm.

I didn't think it would cost £300 just because of the name, didn't think motorbike gear would be like that so much. I figured there would be more technology and quality behind it as to normal clothing.


Laughing

They spend a lot of time making sure summer jackets are NOT too warm. Leather = summer; Textile = winter, as a rule of thumb.
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plenty leather jackets do have removable liners for extra warmth. Still not usually *that* warm though.

OK, here's how it works.

Most riders have at least 2 'sets' of kit. Something leathery for when the weather's nice and something textile-y for when the weather's crap or for the daily commute (stick your textiles on over your work clothes, less getting changed hassle).

Sometimes you'll mix and match. Maybe you prefer the leather trousers but want to wear the textile jacket for whatever reason. Maybe it's the other way round.

As a general rule, the textiles are better at keeping the rain and cold out, the leathers are better at letting the bodyheat out. Textiles are usually a bit baggier, so you can get more warm stuff on underneath, leathers should be tighter and it might just be a t-shirt underneath. When you're sat on top of a boiling hot bike, that shit matters! (Though to be difficult, textiles are easier to wash if you're sweating buckets!)

Of course, you could get leathers and stick some thermal underthings on, maybe a fleece, then some waterproofs on top (which stop the wind quite effectively as well) and you should be pretty much as toasty as if you were in textiles. But it's a lot more hassle, which is why we all generally end up with multiple kit. Smile

(safety-wise - leather slides, textile grips. you takes your choice.)
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/shop/product_info.php/cPath/1_15_19/products_id/5031
not tried it myself but is worth a look if you want a leather.
I always go by textile for winter and the leather/draggin jeans in the summer.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leviathan91 wrote:
I didn't think motorbike gear would be so much.


Biking is as cheap as you want it to be. But if you want to be protected and warm, and everything to fit, you have to be prepared to fork out the cash. Cool

It's relatively cheaper than cars in the long run (overall running costs and in time).
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with above posts....If you want to ride all year round, you definitely need at least two sets of riding gear.
My summer gear is Hein Gericke leather jacket, Draggin jeans and gloves with no insulation.
Winter gear is RST textile thermal lined waterproof jacket, Hein Gericke thermal lined waterproof textile trousers, and winter lined gloves with cold killer undergloves. Also have thermal base layer shirt & leggings.
Also have a shorter Hein Gericke Craig textile jacket that is warmer than a leather but not as warm as the RST, and wear this in spring/autumn.
Have three crash helmets, some have better venting than others for hot days.
Then of course there is replacing/upgrading stuff periodically.
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what on earth sugartits is going on about but I wear a hoodie UNDER my leather jacket (with the hood on the outside) and not only has it been perfectly warm and comfortable while riding around town this winter (it's not a very big town) but it makes it my jacket fit perfectly too!

Going out of town I put on my textiles though.
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:
I don't know what on earth sugartits is going on about but I wear a hoodie UNDER my leather jacket (with the hood on the outside) and not only has it been perfectly warm and comfortable while riding around town this winter (it's not a very big town) but it makes it my jacket fit perfectly too!

Going out of town I put on my textiles though.


in which case your jacket isn't a good fit, if it was you would be unlikely to fit a hoodie under. thus you where it over the top (which is still surprisingly effective)
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:
I don't know what on earth sugartits is going on about


Alexio wrote:


But it makes it my jacket fit perfectly too!



So basically your jacket it too big Laughing

I have a leather 2 peice which is quite snug so the hoodies goes on the outside, I also have an ancient battered black jacket which will fit a hoodie under.

It is more comfortable (and better IMO) to wear a hoodie outside the jacket that fits well.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:

(safety-wise - leather slides, textile grips. you takes your choice.)


This is interesting, I thought it was the other way round, as leather has more of a tendency to behave like skin (for obvious reasons), so it'll wear through, but slow you in the process?

I've never really measured my deceleration when sliding on my arse, and I doubt I will, so it's pretty academic, but interesting never the less!
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leviathan91 wrote:
I thought for £300 it would be excellent padding/protection and very very well insulated IE warm.

I didn't think it would cost £300 just because of the name, didn't think motorbike gear would be like that so much. I figured there would be more technology and quality behind it as to normal clothing.


tbh you sound like one of these lil chavs who ride about on there peds in the summer with shorts and t-shirt on. would you like to see some pictures of when my mate came off his ped few years ago in shorts and t-shirt Smile because i am dam sure you do not want to pick your self up off the floor to realise road and skin do not go together and have to have months off skin graphs to make your leg/arm w.e resemble a human limb.

you do not have to go and spend £300 on a jacket you can pick up a half decent leather jacket for £100 like mine was and when i came off my r6 few years ago it saved my skin. textiles jackets also save your skin when i got took off by a car driver my rst textile jacket held up well to the point i still have it to this day for the cold days granted its ripped slightly but still offers you that protection you need if you want to keep your skin.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 01 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asherz wrote:

tbh you sound like one of these lil chavs who ride about on there peds in the summer with shorts and t-shirt on.


Bit harsh, when you're new to biking the cost of gear does seem pretty prohibitive.

To be honest, ebay is your friend. I've never paid more than £80 for a jacket, and that was a fancy Arlen Ness one that I use to this day. It has been through several crashes and suffered no damage, but I'd assume that's because I've landed on my arse each time.

If you turn your nose up at £££ but you still want quality, 2nd hand is definitely the way to go.
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