Endorsements...

st3v3 · Super Spammer Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

What a joke.

I've been checking out the law (from curiosity) of what is and isn't endorsable, to what I can see, Insurance is a must but driving without tax and MOT aren't endorsable offences...

Why not?
I may build up a list actually of what is, and isn't here... Confused

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Stelmer · World Chat Champion Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Karma :

They can get you for driving with no insurance on the MOT thing as it's void.

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

iooi · Super Spammer Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Karma :

Strange.

Only thing i can think of are that they are more related to a vehicle. As such they should be more serious offences, and get punished in a diffrent way.
Where as speeding and other endorsable offences are more tied to the person driving or a driving related and as such are tied to the licence.
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st3v3 · Super Spammer Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

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st3v3 · Super Spammer Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

It's not right, of all the stupid laws we have, you can actually drive an insured vehicle on the road, without TAX & MOT and be sure you'll only pick up a £30 fine for each (pretty much per trip). Laughing

I'm just making a point of how rediculous this is. Smile

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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

It is ridiculous that you could be fined for not having a worthless piece of paper. Thumbs Up

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yen_powell · World Chat Champion Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Karma :

Points for

Stopping on zigzags at a zebra or pelican (but only if caught by the police, council just give you a fine)

going the wrong side of a keep left bollard

jumping red traffic lights (including temporary ones)

crossing double white line systems (or half solid, half broken) (on two way roads only, not those iffy ones in one way tunnels)

No points for

riding without a crash helmet or driving without a seatbelt.
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

All the MOT says is that on that one day, the vehicle was in a specific condition. So other than on that one day, the piece of paper doesn't really have any meaning.

Plus, you say you see the things people are willing to drive, that proves that the MOT system doesn't work. If those vehicles do have up to date valid MOTs then that's proof of how useless it is to certificate a vehicle for a year, and if they don't have MOTs then that shows that the lack of a piece of paper isn't doing anything to keep un-roadworthy vehicles off the road.

The Artist · Super Spammer Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Karma :

This topic could be argued from so many angles...

so here goes.

As you say Ste, MOT only shows what the vehicle is like on one day but say you have a vehicle with bald tyres and you don't need to MOT it, you are more likely to leave it than if you have an MOT coming up.

As for the insurance thing, I am sure if you hit a Bugatti Veyron and wrote it off somehow or it was your fault it was written off, then your insurance company will examine every single piece of evidence and if anything is out of line then your fucked and they won't pay out. I am sure my insurance says without MOT and tax it is void.

I got caught without tax and got a £42 fine but was expecting much worse. Still, tax this year has only cost me £57 in total. Laughing

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iooi · Super Spammer Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Karma :

One way to help stop the No tax, Mot mob could be that no matter what if caught then its straight to crusher. Instead of like now where its off to the compound.
No if, no buts. Its gone.

Would make many think twice about risking it.

I would also be installing the camera's that pick this up on many of the speed cams.
Then set up a whole dept that do nothing other than pick these scum off the roads.

At the end of the day its this lot that cost the rest of us money in increased ins premiums.
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st3v3 · Super Spammer Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

So let's say;

A person newly acquires a car and insures it.
They then get it MOT'd and it fails on something trivial which is instantly re-booked for repairs = pass.

Later someone decides that no MOT, no TAX but insurance.
One has to come across an ANPR car to get caught, or be driving like such a nob that it's PNC'd, then they're given a fine.
Let's say one doesn't get caught driving round the whole evening and laughs in the face of sticking it to the man. Where's the sense in having an annual MOT and TAX disc?
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