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A.J.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: New to bikes... Reply with quote

Hi there, I am very new to bikes, planning to do my A2 in a few months.

I have a few years road exp on cars now though, and due to the miles I do I'd be looking at a bigger bike.

I have a restricted Varadero 650 in mind and would appreciate any views/alternatives.

Thank you very much, and I look forward to hearing from you!
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That_Hornet
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really dose depend on what you want from a bike and what type of rider you are.

What are you going to be doing with it? Commuting, Touring, Posing.

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A.J.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commuting in the city but also probs touring, i travel between edinburgh and aberdeen and further.

Id like something comfortable enough for that, but also with reasonably response for city traffic.
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Alasdair Murison
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

V-twin or inline 4?

Also what sort of money have you got to throw around (bare in mind insurance costs etc).

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A.J.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probs the V-Twin to be honest, for the torque range, need it to be reliable though.

Ideally below a grand S/H, if pos!
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crowe
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 06 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A.J. wrote:
Probs the V-Twin to be honest, for the torque range, need it to be reliable though.

Ideally below a grand S/H, if pos!


under a grand? perhaps an SV650 or a Bandit? both relatively cheap, powerful and comfortable and a lot of people use them as commuters as well as for longer distance riding.
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Alasdair Murison
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 06 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

crowe wrote:

under a grand? perhaps an SV650 or a Bandit? both relatively cheap, powerful and comfortable and a lot of people use them as commuters as well as for longer distance riding.


Isn't the Bandit an IL4?

SVs are at least £1400 on Autotrader aswell....

Can't think of any twins for less than a grand.... Sad

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PostPosted: 18:55 - 06 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Concidering he's doing his a2 I don't think powers up there in the list of things. Thumbs Up
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Alasdair Murison
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 06 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThatHornet wrote:
Concidering he's doing his a2 I don't think powers up there in the list of things. Thumbs Up


Nope, probably not.

So whatever it is it's going to be 33BHP.

Would the vtwin configuration still be a different delivery of power compared with an inline 4? Despite both being restricted to 33BHP?

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crowe
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 06 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if power isn't so much a factor and price is then i can only suggest a CB500, GS500 or, like i've got, an ER-5.

Cheapish, suited to 33bhp restriction, 2 cylinder...a great all-rounder.

(and yes, i know bandits are an IL4 i just meant for the availability/price ) Cool
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That_Hornet
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 06 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree bandits are cheap. But that's for the reason there crap.

bracing for the incoming bombardment from the bandit owners
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As to what will take the restriction the best. tbh its the bikes that are closest to 33bhp.

But twins are better than the il4 for restrictions i believe. (may well be wrong, if so please tell me)

For commuting i would suggest a hornet, or SV or similar.

Are there any particular styles of bike you like? Naked, off road/touring style?

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A.J.
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 06 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like the look of the SV's to be honest, and prefer at least a half-faired model, for the longer distance.

id lean towards the sportier side of a touring bike i think, and just man up a bit.

are there any distinct advantages to a hornet or a SV?
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A.J.
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 06 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any opinions on a Veradero?
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That_Hornet
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 06 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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are there any distinct advantages to a hornet or a SV?


The cool factor Cool

TBH, hornets I believe are out the the picture due to you spending only a grand and all hornets under a grand have a 16L tank.
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Any opinions on a Veradero?

The Varadero are good. I seem to be thinking the brakes were particularly bad
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Clanger
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 13 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should be out looking for a Honda Bros 400cc, V-twin. I bought mine back in 1998 for just over a grand, so they should be less than that now...

They are a good reliable workhorse. Good learner bike, sturdy and forgiving, and hold a good re-sell price. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 13 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Varadero is a 1000 or 125, its not made with a 650 engine. Is it a translap your thinking of?
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