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PostPosted: 10:22 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: buying an import Reply with quote

I'm having a look at a bike, which is quite obviously an import judging by the mileage being in KM's

Is there any disadvantages or anything I should be wary of? Surely they're all much the same as a UK spec bike?

It's a Thundercat by the way, registered 2000 but I gather this may not be the date of manufactor?

I'm sooooo confuzzled! Wanna make sure i get the right bike for my first one!
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D O G
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an import for my first bike, no issues with it. I think you may have to declare it to the insurance co, but I was never asked.

It's a bit different to car imports, clearly there is no rh/lh drive issues with a bike, and Jap cars generally have very poor security on them, so the insurance co cares about that.

I wouldn't be put off tbh. Thundercat eh, I quite fancy one of those myself. How much is it? (Not that I'm in the market at the moment!)

EDIT:

The 1st registered in 2000 won't be the date of manufacture. It will say on the V5 that it is 'Not new at 1st registration', and states it's an import somewhere.

The age of the bike should be linked to its plate. So If it is a 1996 bike, it'll be on a N/P plate, yet the V5 shows its 1st registration is 2000. [Mine was a 1999 bike, on a T plate, 1st registered in 2001]


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northernmonke...
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

D O G wrote:
I had an import for my first bike, no issues with it. I think you may have to declare it to the insurance co, but I was never asked.

It's a bit different to car imports, clearly there is no rh/lh drive issues with a bike, and Jap cars generally have very poor security on them, so the insurance co cares about that.

I wouldn't be put off tbh. Thundercat eh, I quite fancy one of those myself. How much is it? (Not that I'm in the market at the moment!)


The bit that might put me off mate, is i dunno if it's been kicked the shit out of before even reaching the Uk, but then i suppose that could've happened with a UK bike just as much.

Also, another thing is it may be a 96 bike but arrived here in 2000, hence being registered in 2000.

The seller told me i could have it at £1500, reasonable enough, but not if there's loads of cons rather than pro's!

Thanks for your reply though
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Japanese generally look after their bikes better than the UK, and plus there isn't the issue with salt on the roads over there - so it should, theoretically be in better condition than the same age UK bike.
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The number plate should be related to the age not the first registration in this country, if you are going to register it yourself you need a certificate of guarantee of age which Yamaha may give you or there private companies who will help you.

I've owned loads or grey imports (xt550,CRM,Bros,CB1, V50) and the only problem I've ever had was an arsey parts guy at Dobles Honda and a Clueless WPC. You may find tthe odd part is different to UK bikes but Google and E-bay can usually sort it out.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

northernmonkey wrote:
The bit that might put me off mate, is i dunno if it's been kicked the shit out of before even reaching the Uk, but then i suppose that could've happened with a UK bike just as much.


Every bit as likely.

northernmonkey wrote:
Also, another thing is it may be a 96 bike but arrived here in 2000, hence being registered in 2000.


In which case it would either be on an age related plate to its manufacture OR on a Q plate

The only time an import can be put on a plate related to the year of its import is if it has not been used before.

On an import that has not passed a UK MoT yet the headlight might need replacing otherwise they tend to have a slightly lower value than UK bikes. Which reminds me a speedo convertor is about a tenner from Hein Gericke, a lot easier than working out the differences in your head.

However think of it this way. All Suzuki's are imports.
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for your replies guys, put my mind at ease!

It is registered on an X, so I guess it is actually a 2000.

Rang the bloke, going to have a look see tomorrow, so hopefully it'll be every bit as clean and nice as he's saying!

Thanks again everyone, very much appreciated!
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure on that particular bike, but on some bikes I think the imports tend not to have carb heaters which can cause a problem in winter.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

D O G wrote:

It's a bit different to car imports, clearly there is no rh/lh drive issues with a bike


Sorry D O G , this is wrong. If you are buying an import bike that has not been registered in this country before, chances are that the headlight beam is aimed in the wrong direction i.e. slightly to right and pointing into the eyes of oncoming drivers. On some bikes you will be able to adjust the beam so it is more straight on or slightly to the left, but others you may need to purchase a replacement headlight unit. I had to do this when I bought an Italian XJ600s (well actually the guy I bought it off did it as part of the deal)
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Herbalrick wrote:
D O G wrote:

It's a bit different to car imports, clearly there is no rh/lh drive issues with a bike


Sorry D O G , this is wrong. If you are buying an import bike that has not been registered in this country before, chances are that the headlight beam is aimed in the wrong direction i.e. slightly to right and pointing into the eyes of oncoming drivers. On some bikes you will be able to adjust the beam so it is more straight on or slightly to the left, but others you may need to purchase a replacement headlight unit. I had to do this when I bought an Italian XJ600s (well actually the guy I bought it off did it as part of the deal)


not much of an issue for most imports since japan drive on the same side as us thus the beam will be aiming the correct way. however iirc the bulbs used are different, uk brake bulbs are brighter i think.
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My main point really was that you sit on the same position on a bike regardless of which side of the road you drive on!

Fair play though, I didn't think you would nee to replace a whole light unit. That would be annoying.
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an import from the US.


An MOT place told me they would put tape on the light to get it through the MOT. Whether that's correct procedure or not I don't know.

I do know that it has a headlight control to change it's vertical and horizontal position which might help a teeny bit.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

D O G wrote:
The Japanese generally look after their bikes better than the UK


I've heard the oppsosite about the Japanese looking after their bikes. Seeing as they have the 10 year super-MOT type test, which is uneconomical to put most vehicles through, they don't look after their vehicles so much. They only need them to last 10 years from new, then they're worthless.
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an american import goldwing and when I asked the shop about dipped beam they told me the beam just dips down, not to the side so there are no issues with imported wings.I don't know if its the same on any other bikes though.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode a bandit 400 japanese import as my first big bike and didn't have any problems with it (well, not related to being an import anyway).

I snapped the throttle cable a few weeks after owning it, the local bike dealer even had one in stock, very suprising!

They are generally the same as UK spec bikes, just be careful of headlight alignment and some countries have power limits so you may want to de-restrict it (on older carb'd bikes i think they are restricted via the airbox/washers in the inlet manifolds)
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike is a parallel import I believe - made for another European country but brought in new on the cheap by a dealer.

No issues with anythign other than the headlight, it kicks up to the right so could dazzle oncoming traffic.

For the last MOT the guy just taped up the light on the side that needed to be covered Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 20 Jul 2019    Post subject: Manufacture Date Check Reply with quote

Hi,

I imported a second and Yamaha SR250 from Barcelona, Spain into the UK and looking to register it.

The limited documentation i have shows it was registered in December of 1997 in Spain but it doesnt give a manufacture date. The model number shows it as a 21L SR250 '91 (VI) which makes me think its a 1991 model however not sure if that indicates when it was manufactured.

I've just got in contact with Yamaha to see if they can advise a manufacture date, so waiting for a response but otherwise, can anyone advise how best to prove when it was made?

Thanks
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 21 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ffs.Thanks for making me read a 10 year old thread, prick.
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 21 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

From experience - Check if you need to inform HMRC. They may need to provide a form to allow DVLA to continue. Oh, don’t expect anyone to hurry either!
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 21 Jul 2019    Post subject: Re: Manufacture Date Check Reply with quote

fazzy43 wrote:
Hi,

....The limited documentation....





Oh dear, I foresee issues!
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 21 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the VIN?
https://en.vindecoder.pl/
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 21 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evil Hans wrote:

I’m not sure I’d use that website. Non uk, long list of last searched for?
I must just be old and cynical!
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 21 Jul 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah the VIN number decoder shows that it was built in 1997, which matches the date on the registration form. So that helps a bit. Thanks.
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