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PostPosted: 09:49 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: What to do with old petrol and how to clean out the tank? Reply with quote

I've got the Pan in bits whilst I rebuild the front end and strip / clean the carbs etc. To get the carbs out it was easier to take the rather large petrol tank out and put it to one side.

Now, a few months later I want to get rid of the old fuel and any shite that maye be lurking in the bottom of the tank...

There's probably 10 litres of old fuel going spare, what's the correct way (other than a bonfire of epic proportions) to dispose of it?

Also, is there a decent cleaning agent I can swill around in the tank to clean it out a bit?

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PostPosted: 09:52 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old is old?

Use it to clean chains, or run a petrol garden device if you have one.

Chances are it's still ok provided there's not tonnes of crap in it. If you're really worried just mix it with some fresh fuel. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it has chunks of crud in it, just filter it through a clean rag a couple of times into a clean bucket or something and then use it again.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 months old minimum but I have a sneaky suspicion that there is a lot of crap in the bottom of the tank.

Having just cleaned the SOB carbs and jets etc I definately want to clean the tank out...
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Save it for the next time you have a hire car and have to bring it back full. Shifty
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

its also good for killing pesky weeds on your cobbles, or the annoying neighbours plants Very Happy
i'd filter it through a sock and stick it in the car,
it'll be fine diluted with clean gas
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Re: What to do with old petrol and how to clean out the tank Reply with quote

Kris wrote:
There's probably 10 litres of old fuel going spare, what's the correct way (other than a bonfire of epic proportions) to dispose of it?


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PostPosted: 12:04 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Save it for the next time you have a hire car and have to bring it back full. Shifty


Or find a mate who has an old shed of a car who doesn't mind running it on crap petrol!

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PostPosted: 13:32 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 months old petrol isn't old petrol. 3 years old is barely gone off. Run it through a nice paper coffee percolator filter and put it back in the tank.
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
3 months old petrol isn't old petrol. 3 years old is barely gone off. Run it through a nice paper coffee percolator filter and put it back in the tank.


Laughing Okay, okay the last time *I* topped it up was ~3 months ago but there must be crap in the bottom of the fuel from the last 16 years of (ab)use.

I'm still unsure of the best thing to clean a tank out with - is it just swoosh around new fuel then empty?
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kris wrote:


I'm still unsure of the best thing to clean a tank out with - is it just swoosh around new fuel then empty?


Filter out the fuel you have, then rinse the tank back out with it a few times, filtering out as you go, then bang the ' old ' fuel back in it and top up as normal... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

There may be a lot of rust at the bottom of the tank after 16 years , this is OK as long as it's not disturbed .
Now it will probably be mixed up with the fuel , rinse the tank with the old fuel and filter it .

Repeat this process until you've got all the crap out of the tank. Otherwise it might get sucked into your newly cleaned carbs .

If your bike hasn't got one and there's space , it's a good idea to fit an in-line filter so it gets caught before it gets to the carbs Wink
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you could put it in a container and leave it standing for a week, any debris will settle out - pour the best 2/3 off into another can and put it back in a couple of litres at a time.
Use the rest for cleaning greasy crap off or whatever.
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kris wrote:
Pete. wrote:
3 months old petrol isn't old petrol. 3 years old is barely gone off. Run it through a nice paper coffee percolator filter and put it back in the tank.


Laughing Okay, okay the last time *I* topped it up was ~3 months ago but there must be crap in the bottom of the fuel from the last 16 years of (ab)use.

I'm still unsure of the best thing to clean a tank out with - is it just swoosh around new fuel then empty?


Drain it out then remove the fuel tap. Slosh a pint of the filtered fuel you drained out back around letting it drain through the tap mount into a white bucket. Keep cleaning the bucket and repeating until you're satisfied there's nothing more to get out, replace the fuel tap & re-fill the tank.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I filled my old cbr400 tank up with 10 litres of vinegar and left it 24 hours. That removed alot of the rust that was in there. I should have left it in for longer but was impatient.
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would do as other have said:

Filter the old fuel and keep doing this to clean out any crap in the tank, let it dry and then seal the inside of the tank with Petseal or Frost tank sealant, this will seal any other loose crap or corrosion and seal up any pin holes on the inside of the tank before they get worse.

If you use Petseal though be very carefull about inhailing the fumes, it's not nice and made me ill for the rest of the day and this was doing it outside in a well ventilated area.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

nasty wrote:
I would do as other have said:

Filter the old fuel and keep doing this to clean out any crap in the tank, let it dry and then seal the inside of the tank with Petseal or Frost tank sealant, this will seal any other loose crap or corrosion and seal up any pin holes on the inside of the tank before they get worse.

If you use Petseal though be very carefull about inhailing the fumes, it's not nice and made me ill for the rest of the day and this was doing it outside in a well ventilated area.


Also be careful not to block any breather holes with sealer , otherwise you'll get venting problems .
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 08 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you wish to brake up and dislogde all of the rust and crud you could do as my old man did with one of our a10 tanks; Buy and bake a bag of gravel to remove all moisture from it. Fill tank with the gravel, place into a cement mixer (heavily padded with blankets pillows etc) and spin for about 15 minutes, then proceed to slosh and clean the tank as describe above, the difference was spectacular!
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cptn. Awesome wrote:
If it has chunks of crud in it, just filter it through a clean rag a couple of times into a clean bucket or something and then use it again.


I use coffee filters, the petrol recovered was good enough to run the Superdream, especially once I mixed some fresh petrol in with it.

Inline fuel filters are a great idea for any engine of any age, the ones on the Trike and Superdream unscrew so you can clean the filter - more expensive to begin with but better in the long run.
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