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 mistergixer World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 23:50 - 14 Mar 2010 Post subject: Becoming a Driving Instructor... |
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As i hate my current job, i've been looking at a way out.
One job i've considered for years is becoming a driving instructor (don't ask why), and i reckon i'd be a pretty darn good one too. I'm thinking now might be a 'good' time to take the plunge and actually do something about it.
I know there's at least one driving instructor on here, wondering if you might be able to shed a bit of light on the pros/cons of either going with an established franchiser (BSM for example) vs going out as an independent.
Personal experiences would be most welcome, any info on required qualification/accreditation/training etc also most useful.
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| Feasty |
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 Feasty World Chat Champion
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 Posted: 11:21 - 15 Mar 2010 Post subject: |
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Hi
Well you've just walked right up my street!
A few years ago I took the same decision as you're thinking about and decided to become a driving instructor. I looked around a LOT to find the best company to train with. I heard bad things about several companies including BSM, in that they would entice you to part with lots of money but give you bugger all support and leave you dry if you got a bit stuck. Don't take my word for it though, things may have changed by now. Just be very careful who you end up with.
I ended up going with LDC, and very fortunately found someone on Ebay selling their entire course complete with books/videos etc for a third of the price. So I got stuck in thinking 'well I haven't had an accident for 14 years now so I'm doing somthing right'!
I got through the first section (which took me a year because I was very slow but also working full time!), and then had my first 'test' drive with an instructor training person. At that point I came up against a brick wall - I simply couldn't cope with the utter anal approach they had. Things like - I was changing gear at slightly the wrong rev's, the way in which I held the steering wheel whilst indicating etc, looking in your rear view mirror 3 times on that corner instead of 4 etc, etc...
I know they have standards they obviously have to adhere to but this was ridiculous, so I gave up. I'd never be able to be so nit picky about it.
The other things that I had at the back of my mind the whole time were working hours, holidays, sickness and salary. Just bear in mind when they advertise £25K-£30K salaries, you're extremely unlikely to ever actually reach those unless you work 8am-9pm Mon-Sat and also manage to find the work to do this through the winter too!
Recently my wife and I had a baby, in the past 18 months since I've never been so glad to work a normal office 9-5 job. I can take time out with ease for appointments etc, I have my weekends to myself to enjoy time as a family and I don't need to worry about money during holidays, since I get paid holidays anyway.
Lots of stuff to bear in mind when making your decision.
Lastly, if you still want to do this. I have the entire course content from LDC including the entire theory manuals and all the training videos, you can have them at a very good price.
Good luck!!!  ____________________ Previous: Aprilia Habana Retro 50cc (beauty), Yamaha SR125 (fell apart), Honda XR125 (nippy little commuter), Honda SLR650 (Geewhizz), Yamaha Diversion 900S (Smoooooth) written off courtesy of a stupid escaped horse.
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Don't look at red driving school, their parent company is in administration.
I have experience of doing accounts of about 9 driving instructors they all made around 30K turnover, after taking fuel and expenses they were left with about 15-17K. With one low one who made 12K.
There were quite a lot of car repairs in their expenses, fuel was a massive massive expense and maintenance was also a massive expense with people having to service their cars every 2 months sometimes. Although the one I got on with quite well used to do this himself he still spent enourmous amounts on tyres, repairs (which were dings done on tests) and oil. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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I've thought about it, but I've not much tolerance for arseholes and people with low personal hygiene standards. ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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Don't do it. Its not like that at all. You work all hours and make hardly any money. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F; Cheap project: CBR900RR FireBlade
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My old next door neighbour had a punt at it.
It wasn't until he paid all his fees, passed all the tests and was registered that he was informed that there were something like 6 other instructors for the same company in the same area, so getting work was nigh on impossible for him - put it this was he was asking my brother if there was any warehouse work going on at his place that he could put a good word in for him, so evidently he wasn't bringing in £30k a year. After about 4 months he gave up and went on to do something else.
Thats about all I know really.
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Skudd used to be one. Have a chat with him, he'll probably give you some pointers.  ____________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter won't mind - Dr. Seuss |
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 Groove World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 17:20 - 15 Mar 2010 Post subject: |
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My dad is one.
He started with BSM, went to Safeways and is now on his own (Aco UK Driving School).
For some time now he has been very busy and doesnt have a huge area (Harlow, Bishops Stortford & Braintree) and is looking to take one or two people on to cover the other side of Essex.
He enjoys it, works reasonable hours although somtimes doesnt get in till 8pm.
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 Charlie World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 19:19 - 15 Mar 2010 Post subject: |
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Try giving a PM to deanoet he was training to be an instructor last time I spoke to him  ____________________ Past: Honda x8rs, Honda City fly, Honda Hornet 250, Honda VFR750, Yamaha xt600e.
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Hmmm, interesting thread.
I love driving, but unfortunately I love driving myself, hate being driven by anyone else. Am way too scared and don't trust a lot of people. So you seriously need to be able to stay calm even if they're messing things up, which they will.
But I was thinking, how is it with riding instructors? Don't worry, not myself, haven't even finished the whole test, one final bit - MOD2 to do possibly next week and then I'm out there. But anyway, how is it with the riders? Has anyone been lucky and experienced it? Can you work full-time or part-time, whenever it suits you? Once you know how it goes and how things work, start your own business
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lots of good advice here. i'd seriously think twice about it.
the ads make it look simple and that you'll be earning wads of cash in no time which from what ive heard is b)llocks.
personally after following several learners lately i think you'd have to be on vallium to get in a car with them
can't be good for blood pressure and heart all that stress.
hats off to those who do it though  ____________________ (L)users...Disk space is to good for them.
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My dad does it privatly although he is looking to take people on (as mentioned before). Last week he did 18 2 hour lessons priced at £20 per hour. This is how its been for quite a few weeks and is booked up for the next 5 or so weeks untill a few go for their tests.
Think his car is about £50 a week (207 1.4 diesel) and obvioulsy a lump on diesel.
So its fairly good for him. ____________________ || Past: 1991 Kawasaki ZXR 250 ~ 2003 Honda CBR 600 F Sport ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1999 Yamaha R1 ~ 1999 Kawasaki ZX6R J ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1998 Honda VTR1000F Firestorm ~ K1 GSXR 600 Track bike ~ K6 GSXR 1000 ~ 2006 Speed Triple 1050 || Current: 2005 R1 https://www.adrucore.co.uk |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 16 years, 103 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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