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PostPosted: 19:54 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: why does my bike fall over whilst riding in the wind? Reply with quote

hi my 125 seems to want to fall over when it's windy even when there's just a little bit of wind, anybody know how to stop it happening?
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Re: why does my bike fall over in the wind? Reply with quote

fezza612 wrote:
why does my bike fall over in the wind?


Because the force of the wind overcomes the weight of your bike pushing it over.

Try parking it close to a wall or in shelter.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Re: why does my bike fall over in the wind? Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:
fezza612 wrote:
why does my bike fall over in the wind?


Because the force of the wind overcomes the weight of your bike pushing it over.

Try parking it close to a wall or in shelter.


*when i'm riding it
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll notice it with all small bikes. Try countersteering into the wind.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBassJunky wrote:
You'll notice it with all small bikes. Try countersteering into the wind.

thanks but it still happens
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This doesn't really belong in the Worshop section does it? Laughing Rolling Eyes
Unless of course your bike wants to fall over Surprised in normal conditions. Then it could be a number of things.

Grip tank with knees.
Normal grip on bars i.e not hard not too loose.

Stay aware of crosswinds and alter your grip and position to suit.

Now bugger off.

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PostPosted: 20:10 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stay indoors Laughing

it`s just one of those things about smaller bikes!
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't stop it happening. You're acting as a sail, and as such the wind is actually pushing you around.

You know you're in trouble when you see cars being pushed across lanes!
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howling Terror wrote:
This doesn't really belong in the Worshop section does it?

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PostPosted: 20:24 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i guess i'll just put up with it until i do mod 2 and get the gpz on the road
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

fezza612 wrote:
TheBassJunky wrote:
You'll notice it with all small bikes. Try countersteering into the wind.

thanks but it still happens


Then you're not doing it properly.

I used to countersteer against the wind on my C90 all the time.
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

fezza612 wrote:
i guess i'll just put up with it until i do mod 2 and get the gpz on the road


Hate to put a downer on that, But my gpz still flys about in the wind.

Just have to lean into the wind and power through. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are relaxed it's intuitive and not scary to steer against the wind. Never found it a problem Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is an interesting one actually and i found myself on my 125nsr in the same situation just the other day.

Cruising at 65 on a duel carriage way and an intermittent hedge ment the wind came and went, very much underlined the effect of the wind on the bike!

Strong blasts of wind seemed to almost push the bike across the lane whilst it was still facing dead straight!

Other effects are the bike leaning and such.


I was taught by my instructor that this is because i was to tense whilst riding acting like a large sail (at first it was my CBT and the other way was my first real run on the NSR so pretty tense on both occasions...

To counter this you have to grip the bike (as mentioned above) with your knees and relax your upper body, let the wind push your body slightly in the direction it wants to and this seems to dramatically reduce the effect it has on the bike itself!

This does take quiet a bit of getting used to and on my old bike i didnt have many problems with cross winds (was far more relaxed riding it), so i jst have to get used to riding the nsr (although with all the fairing i wouldnt be supprised if it was still effected more than my previous bike).


So yeah, grip the bike with your knees, relax your upper body and let the wind nudge you a little. Resisting it forcefully will only transmit more of the fore to the bike.

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PostPosted: 22:24 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

skatefreak wrote:
This is an interesting one actually and i found myself on my 125nsr in the same situation just the other day.

Cruising at 65 on a duel carriage way and an intermittent hedge ment the wind came and went, very much underlined the effect of the wind on the bike!

Strong blasts of wind seemed to almost push the bike across the lane whilst it was still facing dead straight!

Other effects are the bike leaning and such.


I was taught by my instructor that this is because i was to tense whilst riding acting like a large sail (at first it was my CBT and the other way was my first real run on the NSR so pretty tense on both occasions...

To counter this you have to grip the bike (as mentioned above) with your knees and relax your upper body, let the wind push your body slightly in the direction it wants to and this seems to dramatically reduce the effect it has on the bike itself!

This does take quiet a bit of getting used to and on my old bike i didnt have many problems with cross winds (was far more relaxed riding it), so i jst have to get used to riding the nsr (although with all the fairing i wouldnt be supprised if it was still effected more than my previous bike).


So yeah, grip the bike with your knees, relax your upper body and let the wind nudge you a little. Resisting it forcefully will only transmit more of the fore to the bike.

Best regards

-Jvr


be vary wary of bridges that cross duel carrage ways an motorway or any large road the winds can be dredfull an more intense i dont no wether that is down to the open area and traffic wind but when i first rode about on roads it shook me up nearly put me into paths of other cars and evn worse if the winds blowin from the right over the railings you almost got to predict (haha mother nature at her best) whats about to happen.
keep at it youl get the hang of it just be safe.
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

you are riding a sail, any side wind onto a large flattish surface is going to push it,
welcome to the wonderful world of biking, suck it up
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha, the worst I've ever had to deal with was on my 125 on the way to college.


Wet, greasy and slightly Icy. Get to a 60mph road. Full throttle.

Big open space and the wind hits me.


With the road being so greasy/icy/wet I literally get thrown onto oncoming traffic. Shocked

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PostPosted: 23:30 - 18 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way i found to combat it was to duck down making myself catch less of the wind, lean into the wind pushing the handlebar forwards on the side your leaning to. As others have said this makes the bike lean over into the wind. It's called counter steering as your actually turning the bars right, making the bike lean left into the wind removing it's effect.

This is one of the main skills to learn on a little bike and will stop you wrecking something bigger and better when the time comes. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 03:57 - 19 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My experience ride under wind

Gear in low and high engine round

Of course hold tight the bar
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PostPosted: 07:23 - 19 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gain some weight, be a lard ar$e.. Once you weigh 20 stones and over the problem will disappear Thumbs Up
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