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MugenSeiki
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Anyone ever NOT done the lessons .. Reply with quote

.. and passed ?

I really want to get my full license sorted now , like yesterday . But I just cannot get the money together for the lessons Crying or Very sad Don't have enough to save any and that's the only way .

Was just wondering if there's anyone who tackled all these test hurdles without £££

I'm getting £500 and up quotes for just two days training around here , + a £300 deposit Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

I practice the moves in mod 1 and 2 all the time on my DT , also on my mates 660 ( in my carpark )

Also I just learnt test centres don't use their own bikes for tests , oh great does that put me back at having to book lessons ? Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had 2 lessons then the instructor started going over the same stuff,so i ditched him and put in for my test and passed,job done.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't mind just two lessons , but that's £700 Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

MugenSeiki wrote:
I wouldn't mind just two lessons , but that's £700 Evil or Very Mad


Are you're quotes for a few days? As opposed to a few hours?
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What? £700??

I had an hour before Mod1 and another hour before Mod2 at the cost of £25 per hour. Passed both first time...
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

MugenSeiki wrote:
I wouldn't mind just two lessons , but that's £700 Evil or Very Mad


My lessons were 2 hour and about £50,this is 12 ish years ago though.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i did my cbt which was good practice for mod 1 , bought a 125 and practiced all the manuevers for mod 1 and passed first go then put in for mod 2 for a week later and had 2hours before the test with the instructor i did the cbt with just to show me any bad habits etc and passed 1st go, cost me £50 for the 2 hours and that was the best £50 i have spent in honesty.
i would just go for mod 1 and see how you get on, the man i did cbt with wanted £500 for 2 days and test too and i figured i could fail the test 5 times and still save money, best to book the test then ask for a couple of hour so they cant fob you off into paying for a days training.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had 2 lessons before my test, cost me about 60 quid i think.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes (though not personally), absolutely loads of people did back in the old days. There were no lessons, no CBT, nothing. You just booked your test and away you went.

Then you could hop on ANY bike you liked...no restrictions, and a lot of them are still out there. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh , I didnt realise you could just book on a hourly rate Surprised

That's much better and more like what I (I think) need

Did you do the tests on your own bikes then ?
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

MugenSeiki wrote:
Oh , I didnt realise you could just book on a hourly rate Surprised

That's much better and more like what I (I think) need

Did you do the tests on your own bikes then ?


When I learned to ride, I didn't even own a bike, I used my instructors. I passed my test on my own bike, in fact it was my second own bike, my first 28th hand bike having croaked. So I rode 3 different bikes in a few weeks. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did CBTs on my own bikes.
Passed without lessons on own bike. (a2)

Not through choice....necessity.

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PostPosted: 21:45 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm this is sounding like I might have a chance this lifetime then Very Happy

I only have a 125 so it wont be allowed on mod 2 , hopefully it gets me up to speed in time on mod 1 Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i used my own bike on both tests , why cant you use your 125 on the mod 2? i did but it means you are restricted to 33bhp for 2 years. which to be honest is prob a good idea for me anyway Rolling Eyes
i used a hyosung cruise for my test the only thing that is not allowed is a km only speedo..
go on get it booked
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 30 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get the impression you're wanting to do DAS, I'm pretty certain that most (if not all) of the people who do their test without lessons do the A2 test rather than DAS.

People can easily practice for the A2 test on their own without the need for an instructor and for the A2 test people use their own bike if they've got a 125. You can't do any practicing for DAS without an instructor and using your own bike to do the DAS test is likely to be more hassle and more expensive than renting one from a training school (if you want to use your own bike then you've got to get it to the test centre and you've got to insure it, plus you've got to get your bike home again if you don't pass).

I did my A2 test without lessons, 7 years ago so it was just one test rather than mod 1 and mod 2. First attempt I messed up the U turn, second attempt I messed up something to do with lane positioning on a roundabout, third attempt I passed. At £45 for each test I reckon it was cheaper than having lessons as there's nothing to say that I'd have passed first time if I'd had lessons.

You should be able to book lessons on a hourly rate, ring around different training schools. What's the £300 deposit for?
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PostPosted: 06:46 - 31 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah full license is what I'm after , no point in messing about with restictions . So that's why I say it's useless for mod 2 , also I dont have a speedo at the moment lol

The £300 is a deposit on the bike apparently if I use a centres bike
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PostPosted: 07:15 - 31 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to try a different center mate. I just went from not riding at all to full licence for £700. That's CBT, Mod 1 & 2, training, bike hire, fuel etc etc.

I didn't have to pay a deposit, and they let me pay a bit at a time till i had enough to do each bit.
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PostPosted: 07:30 - 31 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think my DAS lessons were £25 an hour or £40 for a two hour lesson. That included the bike and use of their gear. That's 2007 prices btw.
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 31 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

MugenSeiki wrote:
I wouldn't mind just two lessons , but that's £700 Evil or Very Mad


Shocked I started from scratch (never even sat on a motorbike until the morning of my CBT). I did a CBT, a 5 day DAS and my test for much less than that ... <£500 IIRC
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PostPosted: 08:05 - 31 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
people who do their test without lessons do the A2 test rather than DAS.

People can easily practice for the A2 test on their own without the need for an instructor and for the A2 test people use their own bike if they've got a 125.


This. Yesterday. Passed Smile

If I get bored with 33bhp, I'll have another go (probably on my own bike again as my current #1 choice takes 2 minutes to derestrict according to the guy in the shop. So, ride up @ 33, test at full power, put restrictor back in if I fail).
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PostPosted: 08:11 - 31 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think I'll try another centre Confused

Here are the prices I've been quoted from the place I did my CBT


Restricted Courses


4day Course £595.00 +£200

5day Course £660.00 +£200

6day Course £699.00 +£200



DIRECT ACCESS



4 Day Direct Access £699.00 +£200

5 Day Direct Access £799.00 +£200

6 Day Direct Access £899.00 +£200


The £200 is for the deposit Thumbs Down

Think I might just go for the restricted , don't really want to but I just cannot afford these prices , they're ridiculous and unnecessary
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So if I did my Resticted , and then decide to do my full test ( assuming I get bored of my 125 and wanted bigger than 33bph ) , do I have to redo my mod 1 , or will it just be mod 2 I need to complete again just on a bigger bike ?
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PostPosted: 08:37 - 31 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you not spread the DAS lessons out? That's what I did, rather than go nuts over three or four days I learned over three or four months, lesson every week or two.
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 31 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never sat on a bike til the morning of my CBT either (apart from when I was 5, lol). Bought a CG125 and rode around for 2 months then booked my test (got cancelled due to bad weather, twice). About a month before the third scheduled date for my test, I booked a 2-hour lesson to make sure I wasn't an awful rider. Instructor said he was amazed how much I'd retained several months after CBT with no proper lessons.

Next day, the owner of the training school I did CBT/lesson with, called and said he had a spare test slot at the end of the week if I wanted to do the last day of a 3 day course he was doing. I felt obliged to take the day's training to get the test done quicker, but it was more just a fun day of riding around, didn't particularly learn anything new. Next day, passed the test first time, then bought a restricted Hornet.

2 year restriction is up in under 3 weeks Smile Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 31 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i never took any lessons for mod1 or mod2, took 2 attempts for mod1 and just 1 attempt for mod2, look at it this way. If you're aiming to save money, even if you fail a few times you'll have saved more than you would have spent on the training. GL with your test Smile
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