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PostPosted: 19:26 - 05 Apr 2010    Post subject: Ride report - Green laning 5th April 2010 Reply with quote

Today was the 'long route' starting at Guildford.

This was the first attempt at the long route for a while now, the long route is ... well quite long ... so you need a good day at it, therefore not conducive to the short winter months of late ... but it is officially summer now!! Smile

6 of us showed, Silky666, Philo, boundy, Tatters, Rushy (non BCF member we met on a ride once) and myself.

Weather was good, but where there had been recent rain, made the lanes splashy - best of both worlds Thumbs Up

All was going well until ~15 miles in when I got a puncture (nail) in my rear tyre Crying or Very sad

Fortunately I do carry tube changing equipment and a spare tube ... but a 21" tube (18" rear 21" front) Confused ... I had been told you can use a 21" in the rear too (just folds up a bit) which I agreed should be ok for 'getting you home' ... but I had ~90miles left to do!! Shocked

Shortly after this Silky666 and Philo caught a touch of the ghey (to be fair, pretty sure Silky666 had it all along?!!?) and decided to go home before the day had properly begun Rolling Eyes

Apart from my puncture, the day went without mechanical problems or any injuries - which is always a good thing!! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 05 Apr 2010    Post subject: Re: Ride report - Green laning 5th April 2010 Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:

Shortly after this Silky666 and Philo caught a touch of the ghey (to be fair, pretty sure Silky666 had it all along?!!?) and decided to go home before the day had properly begun Rolling Eyes

Just to set the record straight Smile

Half a Ride Report:
Lovely day .. perfect for a bimble
All met and set off at a reasonable time ... with Blue covering me in clouds of blue smoke
(I wouldnt mind... but he is so stingy it didnt even smell of Castrol R)
Some of the muddy ruts were excellent ... nice deep / struggle through types ... good sticky mud
Woops bought Blue a puncture (which was changed around in quite an impressive time).
Sand section saw me pile into a huge puddle that everyone had avoided.

31 miles into the run ... past that deep deep muddy 'lake', and about to hit the Alton part ... and Philo bailed out due to a bad back (we are getting old ya know).
I joined him for the ride back down the A31 .. which was fun

Then decided that I still had half a day to play with.
So have just spent 2 hours riding up and down the Bocketts route .. on my own Sad .
Great ride that though ... The Sand Gallops really is the best lane out there Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 05 Apr 2010    Post subject: Re: Ride report - Green laning 5th April 2010 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:18 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

That step at water lane I remember now.
Didnt look quite as nasty as it does now mind ... always was a commit and go for it jobbie... but didnt need to be built up like that Shocked

Did you make it to the end of the entire route ? ie: 150 miles ish ?
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

silky666 wrote:
That step at water lane I remember now.
Didnt look quite as nasty as it does now mind ... always was a commit and go for it jobbie... but didnt need to be built up like that Shocked




Blue went for it at full speed with the front end up and slammed his bash plate into the top over hanging root, the photos dont give it justic but we had to build up quite a impressive 3ft slope from logs/stones and the remains of 4x4,s to get up there.
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

silky666 wrote:
That step at water lane I remember now.
Didnt look quite as nasty as it does now mind ... always was a commit and go for it jobbie... but didnt need to be built up like that Shocked

Did you make it to the end of the entire route ? ie: 150 miles ish ?


I had a crack at it with nothing there ... and I ended up hitting it hard and the bike stopping dead ... with me smacking into the bars and winding myself! Embarassed

As for the 'build' to be honest, looking at lots of wet and loose logs and rocks didn't look overly inviting - it looked racked with potential for disaster!!!! Shocked ... I really had to psych myself up to give it a bash (I was first) ... turns out it was well packed and actually made it a doddle ... we nearly went back and took a few logs out to make it a bit more tricky and have another go!! Laughing


Oh and it is ~106 miles ... and yes, we were all done and loading up by ~4pm Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I had a crack at it with nothing there ... and I ended up hitting it hard and the bike stopping dead ... with me smacking into the bars and winding myself! Embarassed

I should have given you the camera to continue with.

So, when we doing Bocketts next Smile ?
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, when we doing Bocketts next Smile ?


I don't think you are actually aware, but everyone else is actually of the opinion the Bocketts run is really only any good for the https://eydis.fantasy-hr.com/style_emoticons/light/gay.gif ... and that is the truth, not (just) a wind up!! Wink
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:
silky666 wrote:

So, when we doing Bocketts next Smile ?


I don't think you are actually aware, but everyone else is actually of the opinion the Bocketts run is really only any good for the https://eydis.fantasy-hr.com/style_emoticons/light/gay.gif ... and that is the truth, not (just) a wind up!! Wink

Everyone being ? dont say you have turned Tatters ? he loves the sand gallops lane. Shocked
You appear to be trying to drive a wedge down the middle of the SE Old Skool Specials ... it wont work I tell ya.

Its a shame you think of the Bocketts run in such a way.
I suspect its due to the fact that the total run is shortish.
BUT, when tagged onto the Hindhead run, it makes for a most enjoyable day ... and with less road miles than the Alton run.
The Sand Gallops is recognised as the best lane in Surrey. Everyone who has ridden it says as much.
And once they open up Chalk hill again, the run will be back to its former glory.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Everyone being ? dont say you have turned Tatters ? he loves the sand gallops lane. Shocked
You appear to be trying to drive a wedge down the middle of the SE Old Skool Specials ... it wont work I tell ya.

Its a shame you think of the Bocketts run in such a way.
I suspect its due to the fact that the total run is shortish.
BUT, when tagged onto the Hindhead run, it makes for a most enjoyable day ... and with less road miles than the Alton run.
The Sand Gallops is recognised as the best lane in Surrey. Everyone who has ridden it says as much.
And once they open up Chalk hill again, the run will be back to its former glory.



I too like the gallops lane (to a fashion - going flat out round blind bends only holds limited appeal for me), but it hardly constitutes as a days ride - or feeds the need/desire for variety and/or the 'technical', it also takes 3 times as long for me to get there than I am on the bike, so the ride really doesn't tick many of the boxes I desire I am afraid Confused But each to their own, I think it quite literally being on your doorstep makes it a 'bargain' for you and probably sways/biases you?!?!

Oh and I suppose it is 'everyone I have ever asked', which is very different to 'everyone' isn't it!! Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 06 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trouble with bocketts for me is its miles away, you are a very lucky chap to have it right on your door step Thumbs Up


To get to the start point we met at last time it took me 3 hours in the van there and back to do 3 hours of lanning.

Im sure if I lived as close to it as you I would have a differant view.

The route me and Blue do is about 75 miles and it takes about 6-7 hours with a lunch break from front door to front door. It takes that long due to the hard work that went in to making a route with only a tiny bit of road work and the very tecnical lanes we do on route
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

WARNING: 20 minute read of general drivel as I am bored at work.
Bocketts is 30 minutes drive from the start of the Hindhead run ... possibly less if you came via a more direct route.
Even so, I agree that it is a little too far to travel for a 2 hour ride ?

BUT - and this is where us 'inland pansies' (excluding Tatters as he is always moaning that we dont ride for longer) will hold our hands up and say "we became a little lax last year" Smile
We tended to ride the Bocketts run .. hit Newlands corner and then go "shall we go home now " Rolling Eyes

However, this is our fault.. NOT the routes (if that makes sense).
Let me explain:

Bocketts to Newlands is a 1hr 30min ride (involving some stunning lanes.. Sand Gallops, Chalk hill climbs, rocky flinty lanes etc)).
Newlands to the Harvester outside Guildford is 20 minutes ride.
Harvester to Hindhead is a 2 hour (?) ride (involving lanes such as the woops, the deep ruts at tatters corner (almost impassable last time) , the hill climb at Tatters corner .. etc etc)
So: Combine the 2 routes (which we did do in the early days) ... and then reverse ride it to hit Bocketts... and we are talking a full days riding.

Summary:
Bocketts to Newlands (01:30)
Newlands to Harvester (00:20)
Harvester to Hindhead (02:00)
Lunch (00:30)
Hindhead to Harvester (02:00)
Harvester to Newlands (00:20)
Newlands to Bocketts (01:30)

Start at Bocketts for 9am
Return at Bocketts for 5pm
(times of runs and arrivals are +- 15%)

You are missing out on some great lanes ... doing the Alton run on Monday meant we missed the Tatters corner bit at the end of Hindhead. That bit is great, rocky step up on way back... deep (landrovers cannot get through) ruts, hill climbs for fun (see banned video:) etc.
Not to mention my much loved Sand Gallops with woops and sand berms etc.
Beelzebubs puddle... and the slipper chalky climbs of the 2 x chalk hills)

And I reckon its less road miles that the Alton run !

Thats what I am proposing for the good weather rides anyway.
Time I manned up again and stopped doing just Bocketts, because it is on my doorstep.
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should come down and do the our southern run one weekend, it really is an awsome route Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You should come down and do the our southern run one weekend, it really is an awsome route Thumbs Up

The van is almost there ... just have to find a starter motor cheap and fit it, and then pull the wing out and get mot.

I estimate it will be done by end of May.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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... see, it is a full day if you did it like this ...


Is that including or excluding time spent on your copious 'faggot' breaks?!!? Wink

Either way, if you were prepared to start and end that route at Hindhead not Bocketts (to share the burden/overhead of the travel), then it has to be worth a bash one weekend!! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:
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... see, it is a full day if you did it like this ...


Is that including or excluding time spent on your copious 'faggot' breaks?!!? Wink

Either way, if you were prepared to start and end that route at Hindhead not Bocketts (to share the burden/overhead of the travel), then it has to be worth a bash one weekend!! Thumbs Up

That includes minimal smoke breaks.

Where do you lot travel up from ? Brighton , Portsmouth, Southampton ? .. I forget
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where do you lot travel up from ? Brighton , Portsmouth, Southampton ? .. I forget


Oh god, please don't start telling me how long it takes me to get places again Silky666!! Rolling Eyes

It is ~70miles for me to Bocketts .. in MY van (very slow and uneconomical) it took me just under 2hrs to get to Bocketts last time. Yes, that was nearly 4hrs of van time for about 1.3hrs of (on) bike time ... Crying or Very sad

Hindhead is 30 miles closer, which will cut it down to about an hours travel.

For me to get to Bocketts for 8:30am, I would have to set off from mine at 6:30am, which means out of bed at 5:30am to get ready and load up. Then 2hrs of mind-numbingly boring travel whilst still half asleep. It also costs me ~£35 in van petrol alone for the round trip.


Hindhead would nearly half my travel time (and travel expense) and increase time in bed! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:

Oh god, please don't start telling me how long it takes me to get places again Silky666!! Rolling Eyes

Hindhead is 30 miles closer than Bocketts , which will cut it down to about an hours travel.

Hindhead would nearly half my travel time (and travel expense) and increase time in bed


ok ok ! jeez... keep your Brighton Leather Pants on ya woofa.
I am only trying to make an attempt at convincing you coastal freeqs to join the sophisticated types of sunny Surrey ... thats all Rolling Eyes

So humour me for 2 seconds.
IF you are wrong ... should I point it out .. or simply say "f*ck him, if he doesnt want to join us then so be it" ???

(because regarding the milage and time from Harvester meet to Bocketts ... you are very very wrong)
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ok ok ! jeez... keep your Brighton Leather Pants on ya woofa.
I am only trying to make an attempt at convincing you coastal freeqs to join the sophisticated types of sunny Surrey ... thats all Rolling Eyes

So humour me for 2 seconds.
IF you are wrong ... should I point it out .. or simply say "f*ck him, if he doesnt want to join us then so be it" ???


It is Imonster and Svenn that are Brighton way (and my +1 this weekend), it's Sparks!, boundy and I who are all Portsmouth way.

As for humoring you ... If I am wrong about what? How long it took me to get to Bocketts last time?? and therefore what time I'd need to get up if I wanted to get there for 8:30am?!?! I can't be wrong about that, I know very well approximately how long each step involved would take - I have got out of bed and gone places thousands of times before. Confused I also logged the ride, so I know how far it was and therefore how long I would have been in the saddle for.

Finally, I have already said I'd come Thumbs Up ... but it would have to be a Hindhead start for me to entertain the idea! Smile
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 07 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

silky666 wrote:

(because regarding the milage and time from Harvester meet to Bocketts ... you are very very wrong)


Just noticed this bit you added ... I think you have missread what I put, I said Hindhead, NOT Harvester ... Wink

If you google map KT22 9BS (postcode just down the road from Bocketts) to Hindhead, it comes up with 30.6 miles. You have to get through Hindhead (and its roadworks) and Guildford too ... that is the thicker part of 2hrs round trip for me in my poor old van!! Sad
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