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colinthehamst...
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 08 Apr 2010    Post subject: bit of help for a clueless newbie please! Reply with quote

hi all i'm looking for a bit of advice if possible please!

i'm moving to london from newcastle in september and have been looking into the cheapest and most convenient ways of travelling home maybe once per month. what i was wondering was would it be feasible to ride a bike once per month on a 600 mile round trip? would it be cheaper than taking a car down with me (obviously parking a car may be another problem!)? what type of bike would i need? i have looked into trains etc but i am going to be based pretty far away from the stations and airports and coming home by train would involve travelling a couple of hours on the tube late at night and i'm not too sure how safe that would be! i will also be on a shoestring budget and i have read about some bikes getting 100 miles + per gallon, is this actually possible?

sorry for the essay guys!
thanks
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That_Hornet
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 08 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a new biker to travel 600 mile a month, do able but not sure imo would be the best bet.

Motorways are boring.

100 mpg. Luck if mine makes 30. Embarassed


Train is your best bet, or coach if not.

Trains are OK at night. You only get mugged once or twice a month. Wink
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 08 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tube at night isn't a biggie. But trains are expensive, inconvenient and would be my very last choice.

Biking it would be fine. Have you passed your test? Get something like a GPZ500 - 500 frugality with a bit of fairing for weather protection - piece of cake!
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colinthehamst...
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 08 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

no i've never been on a motorbike in my life but it was suggested to me it may be cheapest and so i thought i'd do a bit of research with people who are in the know before i bothered spending any money!

would a 500 be cheaper than doing the same journey in say a 1.5/1.7 diesel car??
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 08 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

colinthehamster wrote:

would a 500 be cheaper than doing the same journey in say a 1.5/1.7 diesel car??


You'd need to look up specific mpg for some example vehicles.

And then consider the running costs, insurance and the fact that you'll need to do your bike test and buy all the kit...
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Mr White
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 09 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some 125cc bikes have good economy (100mpg) but these are to slow and lightweight for motorways.

Bigger bikes (500-650cc) usualy do 35mpg to 45mpg (on average).

05 Ford Focus TDCI 1.6 disel does 58mpg on average and over 70mpg on a motorway.


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bacon
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 09 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it purely a financial decision?


In the long run trains/coaches are going to be your cheapest option, you will only be doing it 12 times a year

cbt, theory, training, test, gear (helmet, gloves, boots, jacket, trousers), bike security, insurance, tax, mot's, maintenance/consumables (tyres, pads, chains, sprockets, services) and fuel all add up, plus buying the bike to begin with. Also bike will be boring on motorways

train journeys etc arent fun and from a quick look at thetrainline.com £110 open return from padington to newcastle, £1320 a year. Prob be loads cheaper if you book in advance on one of the cheaper sites

coaches are slow, but could be cheaper as well?

for that sort of journey (all motorways) id prefer to choose car out of all the options, but then your stuck with parking it in london and with the costs of buying and running a car


if your looking for an excuse however to get a bike then do it Very Happy
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metalangel
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 10 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacon wrote:
£110 open return from padington to newcastle, £1320 a year. Prob be loads cheaper if you book in advance on one of the cheaper sites


Why is he going from PADDINGTON to Newcastle? Going in the completely wrong direction for a start.

Trains aren't bad, just go to sleep/play DS/watch movies/go into disabled toilet for a wank/drink lots of beer. Free wifi on the east coast trains too.

TBH it's the best option (that or the pissy Megabus) as you might feel dodgy/be drunk/whatever and a 300mile trip ahead on a 125 won't exactly be welcome.
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bacon
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 10 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

metalangel wrote:
bacon wrote:
£110 open return from padington to newcastle, £1320 a year. Prob be loads cheaper if you book in advance on one of the cheaper sites


Why is he going from PADDINGTON to Newcastle? Going in the completely wrong direction for a start.

Trains aren't bad, just go to sleep/play DS/watch movies/go into disabled toilet for a wank/drink lots of beer. Free wifi on the east coast trains too.

TBH it's the best option (that or the pissy Megabus) as you might feel dodgy/be drunk/whatever and a 300mile trip ahead on a 125 won't exactly be welcome.


Dont know much about london so just picked one for a rough estimate. hardly worth nit picking?
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