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Sproket
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Bike movies. Reply with quote

Some bike movies are totally unrealistic, like for instance Torque.
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PostPosted: 00:59 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: The laws of phisycs Reply with quote

some of the computer generated effects are quite neatly done in the movie Torque but You and I both Know (as Bikers) that most of them are extremely not possible. Exclamation Question
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PostPosted: 01:00 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, but can I just question the meaning of this thread? Confused
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PostPosted: 01:03 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: The war is on Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 01:03 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, yes they are.
They have to be that way to retaint he interest of those with no knowlege of bikes. The same can be said for car movies. No one ever makes a movie about an uneventful drive to work, they make stupid movies like the fast and furious.
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PostPosted: 01:06 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it makes more interesting viewing for the general public, as those who actually know about bikes just think "hang on, this isn't possible" but I don't think it was their objective to make a realistic film, it was their objective to get one which will draw in the audiences to see the special effect, stunts and other stuff which people like to see.
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PostPosted: 01:07 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: lets see Reply with quote

Lets see if there is any people here in this chat form howm does not have a clue about Bikes or Cars. Thinking
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Meaning Reply with quote

But spesial effects does have a meaning it is supose to make the movie look more realistic. Wink
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PostPosted: 01:11 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think there is anyone in this forum who does not have a clue about bikes or car, as well, everyone has at least a idea about bikes and cars, but unless you're actually interested in them you don't know what physically possible, and what's not.

The purpose special effect normally use is to make it more impressive. It they were trying to make stuff realistic there are far easier and cheaper ways of doing so than using computer generated graphics.
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PostPosted: 01:17 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: NO!!! Reply with quote

DO you Have A cheap Way of Moving A Camera 190MPH around a bike like an matrix bullet time shot, and believe me just riding 190mph is realistic on fast bikes Smile
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PostPosted: 01:20 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Believe me, 190mph riding is not realistic. Films like Torque, and BikerBoyz are trying to set an image of what people who ride motorcycles enjoy doing, and yes people do ride fast and yes people do do stunts, but not many people do speeds of 190mph and very very few do them on public roads.

190mph is possible, but it's not a realistic view of bikes to be setting really.
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PostPosted: 01:23 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: If there is people whom can do it. Reply with quote

If there is People whom can do it then it can be done that means it is realistic. if you take the best of the best. Wink
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PostPosted: 01:25 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it is possible, but it's hardly a day to day event now is it!
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PostPosted: 01:26 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

This convo is pretty academic reallym the old action sequences of films wil NEVER be realistic.
Infact the most realistic fight ive seen was in the lord of the rings, oi you *punch*, classic stuff.

Everyone wants sensationalism. I saw a clip of torque on tv earlier, someone on an rsv mille with a 50 foot turning circle at full lock do a complete skidding one 180 on a curved train roof, at about 90, while it is moving.

Cool yes.

Retarded.... hell yeh
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PostPosted: 01:31 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Thats what I am talking about. Reply with quote

The Film is Extremely Over reacted.
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PostPosted: 01:45 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

mft. Its all cheap entertainment for the masses.

One that gets me. Watch any americans film or tv. Whenever they pull away or stop in a car, they screech the tyres. Do they really need to make it look like every time someone in america starts or stops a journey they need to leave a little tyre on the road.
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PostPosted: 01:50 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Burnin Reply with quote

I Usually just think of all that money they leave on the road there every time. If you look closer you will see that in the shot after the spin they alway have brand new tyres on. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Re: Burnin Reply with quote

The annoying thing is that there is a hell of a lot impressive stuff that the american stunters are doing, which does and could look really good on film.
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PostPosted: 08:45 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only bike type film that's worth anything is Mad Max, the first one.

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PostPosted: 16:44 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
No one ever makes a movie about an uneventful drive to work, they make stupid movies like the fast and furious.

The Chase, Charlie Sheen & Kristi Swanson...
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite enjoyed Torque - it's harmless fun, not a documentary.

The only reason bikers are critical is becasue they know what's possible and what's not.

Do you think any Hollywood film is realistic?

If they were they'd just be boring, no-one wants to pay to see realistic, people pay to be entertained. Switch the crediblity chip off an Hollywood action movies are great fun.

And for the record - it is only barely possible to do 190mph anywhere on a non turbo bike, next to impossible to find anywhere on this island to do it on the road - and there are only two bikes that can do it anyway (ignoring for now the Y2K)
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally agree Mr C, fun factor and pure escapism is the game with Hollywood movies, look at what walt Disney has done to many a historical fact, Cowboys and Indians, Robinhood talking like he came from Atlanta in the good old US of A, anyway keeps me and the kids out of the wifes way as does her daily chores Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sprocket - can i just ask what side you are arguing for? You don't seem to have a side on an argument you started.

And is there something wrong with your computer that prevents you from writing more then one sentence per post?

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PostPosted: 23:25 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
DaFrostyOne wrote:
No one ever makes a movie about a drive to work, they make stupid movies like the fast and furious.



The Chase, Charlie Sheen & Kristi Swanson...



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PostPosted: 23:46 - 09 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr C wrote:

If they were they'd just be boring, no-one wants to pay to see realistic, people pay to be entertained.

/me puts hand up.
I want realism!... and it /can/ be made to look good as well. It always annoys me when random pyrotechnics are used (ie small wooden out house gets hits by gunfire and explodes like it was full of nitro-glycerin.
And yes... I'm one of those annoy people that watch a film and start mumbling 'that wouldn't have happened like that' etc.

However, I'm told I'm weird Razz.
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