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Ciar?n
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 20 Apr 2010    Post subject: Singlespeed Mountain bike question Reply with quote

Yeah i know it's kinda off topic, (mods feel free to move)

I have a Commencal Max Max absolut 2009.

Modded to hell apart from the gearing.

It worked fine at the bmx tracks, but it's now used purely for park stuff.

I just wondered, if the gearing works the same on these as on a motorbike.

Bigger rear, smaller front - Better Accel

Smaller Rear, larger front - harder to pedal, but easier to keep speed.

Help?
And any advice on what to buy/run will help.

Thanks
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 20 Apr 2010    Post subject: Re: Singlespeed Mountain bike question Reply with quote

you did good with that question.....

your correct
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 20 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes to your gearing question.

As in, bigger rear, smaller front (sprockets) = lower gears available and vice versa.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 20 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.bikeradar.co.uk
www.singletrackworld.com
www.moredirt.com
www.chasetrails.co.uk
etc
you'll find recommendations online for what ratio gearing to have for what stuff. chase trails is local to westmidlands, signletrack world is mainly down sarf, loik. So people will have set ups for places local to them, may be of a more specific help to you...

still think single speeds are nuts, all the effort of a fixie with none of the fun of being able to pedal backwards! heh.
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 20 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try doing ledge hops on a fixed gear lol.

Thanks for the help guys
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 20 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for double post.

But since i'm here, so if i just go up a few teeth on the rear, bish bash bosh and try again.

Any advice to working on them.

It's all small and delicate compared to what i normally work on =P
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 20 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get on Sheldon Browns website. An absolute wealth of information there. It'll tell you everything you want to know about gearing but broadly yes, bigger on front = faster but harder to pedal, smaller on back = the same.

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/

There is a balance to be struck when selecting your gearing. Ground clearance is an issue on a mountain bike so you might need to compromise fitting a smaller front chainring than would be ideal.

Remember the gearing is affected by the diameter of your wheels and the length of your cranks too. So what gearing one person says they have in terms of teeth is only relevant to their particular setup. To accurately compare, you need to convert it into gear-inches using an online gear calculator. You can then put your own setup in and fiddle with teeth numbers.

But yes, it's a case of feeling your way 'till you find a gearing that suits. You may also chop and change according to conditions. Miche style track cogs allow a quick and easy change of gearing without having to undo the main sprocket carrier.

You can even get double rear sprockets so with a flip-flop fixed hub you'd have four options. You just stop and move the chain over onto the other sprocket.

I've built a couple of fixies and a single speed. Some of my tips (some of which only really apply to fixies):

1) Loctite the bottom bracket. Really, or it'll unscrew.

2) Foot retention is totally essential on a fixie. Either SPD or toeclips.

3) Learn to rotafix so your rear sprockets are on tight. Buy a good quality lockring (surly, talon) but remember you don't need to absolutely hammer it on, nipped up tight enough is fine.

4) Spend the time making sure your chain line is bang on. Watch for tight spots, keep it properly adjusted.

5) Gear it lower than you think you'll need and learn to pedal with a faster cadence.

6) A front brake is good, fit one and use it. Skidding is for track cyclists and hipsters.

7) Keep your fingers out of the chain when working on the bike. It'll eat them quicker than you can see.

A good source of parts is www.charliethbikemonger.co.uk . In particular he does single speed chains with a half link which are very useful.

I'm running 46/15 (front to back) with 700C wheels and a 170mm crank on my single speed road bike which works out as 84 gear inches, I'm unfit and can make it up most hills on that.

I'd suggest for pissing about in a park, I'd want it a couple of teeth lower, somewhere around 17 or 18 teeth on the back (70-74 gear inches). For proper offroading, you might want to go lower still.
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PostPosted: 07:49 - 21 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karma for you all, all this information.

Stupid pushbikes are meant to be simple lol =(
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 21 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If only,
I just bought a set of second hand forks for my mtb, they cost more than a second hand pair of forks for the r1!
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 21 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ciar?n wrote:

Stupid pushbikes are meant to be simple lol =(


When I tell you that they give the size of bicycle tyres by the nominal diameter to the outside of the TYRE. You should know all you need to about how simple push bikes are.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just bumping up this thread.

Got my rear wheel repaired after it buckled when i cased a jump.

I got a 32 front, 4 hole, and a 16tooth rear.

I wanna go 30, maybe 28 in the front. (on 24's btw)

Just finding it a tad confusing attempting to order the front sprocket/chainring online.

Anyone point out what i need on www.chainreactioncycles.com or something?

Sorry i'm a noob, more karma ready Karma


Edit: It's this crank, but 32 tooth i guess

https://www.probike.ro/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/r/u/ruktion2.jpg
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheldon Brown is a cycling guru, heed his advice. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple wrote:
If only,
I just bought a set of second hand forks for my mtb, they cost more than a second hand pair of forks for the r1!


what forks did you go for? fox?
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oi, thread jackers lol.

Help me find a bloody chainring for my turdy bike.

From what i can figure.

I need an 104mm 22t, 24t,26t,28t

I'll try any.

I just wanna get out there and thrash it again.
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

They go down to a 22t truvativ fitting in THIS ONE.
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PostPosted: 01:22 - 30 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Won't you need to change the length of the chain too though? As there is no derailleur tensioning the chain like on a geared bike. Unless of course you make the front / back, smaller / bigger in proportion to each other. So gain 1 tooth and the back, lose one at the front?

I am just speculating though, so don't quote me on that!
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 30 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:
Won't you need to change the length of the chain too though? As there is no derailleur tensioning the chain like on a geared bike. Unless of course you make the front / back, smaller / bigger in proportion to each other. So gain 1 tooth and the back, lose one at the front?

I am just speculating though, so don't quote me on that!


Altering the chain length is a five minute job on a bicycle. You even get chains for single speed bikes with a half-link for if you can't get the adjustment quite right by removing a whole one.

You can add and remove links in bicycle chains with impugnity at any point along its length, they aren't rivetted, just pushed through.
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 30 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers stink, again your a legend, and a dumb question, but will this one fit?

https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=17734
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 02 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Answer to that is a simple no lol
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