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PostPosted: 09:32 - 15 Apr 2010    Post subject: Climate change unit exhonerated Reply with quote

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There was no scientific malpractice at the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit, which was at the centre of the "Climategate" affair.

This is according to an independent panel chaired by Lord Oxburgh, which was convened to examine the research published by the unit.

It began its review after e-mails from CRU scientists were published online.

The panel said it would be helpful for researchers to work more closely with professional statisticians in future.

This would ensure the best methods were used when analysing the complex and often "messy" data on climate, the report said.

"We cannot help remarking that it is very surprising that research in an area that depends so heavily on statistical methods has not been carried out in close collaboration with professional statisticians," the panel remarked in its conclusions.

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Anybody smell conspiracy? In that the chair of the independent

Lord Oxburgh is currently president of the Carbon Capture and Storage Association and chairman of wind energy firm Falck Renewables. No conflict of interest is there?

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Few rotten apples? more like barrel full of rotten apples ffs.
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 15 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Total whitewash.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 15 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the report not something like 5 pages long Shocked (yes it was: https://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/CRUstatements/Report+of+the+Science+Assessment+Panel )
Seems like it was proper thorough investigation with a full spectrum of specialist and input from all people concerned and involved with the scandal.

Oh no wait it wasnt https://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2010/4/14/intriguing-possibility.html Rolling Eyes


There almost as bad as the bloody MP's in their expenses scandal Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 15 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are having a live debate on TimeOnline right now. Interesting viewing:

https://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7097515.ece
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 15 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol heard this on the radio yesterday: "I smell a cover up!"
It just goes to show really that where there's money to be made, where there's a vested interested,
where there's a lie to be sold then anyone involved can do no wrong..
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PostPosted: 08:37 - 17 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It gets worse, the police are now interogating anybody who dares to question MMGW I mean MMCC

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7594656/Police-question-climategate-information-seekers.html
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 18 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
It gets worse, the police are now interogating anybody who dares to question MMGW I mean MMCC

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7594656/Police-question-climategate-information-seekers.html


"Working with experts in 'extremism'..."

Mmm...

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PostPosted: 10:13 - 21 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10:28 - 21 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really it is just that the word conspiracy has been denegrated to that of lunatics.

In that to conspire is simply for people to get together and decide upon something.

I conspired to go on a ride out last night with a mate I've not seen for ages. Does this make me evil?.

The issue is that Climare change (changed from global warming so that negative and positive changes can be attributed to we're all going to die) has proven to be a real conspiracy of people getting together to obscuficate and hide and manipulate data.

The fact that they are marking their own homework, producing models that nobody else can replicate and refuse to release their data and claim it is lost when they are forced to gives significant doubt as to the validity of their claims.

In science if nobody can replicate your results then it isn't science.

Laws are introduced on the back of this flawed science that affect you and me, my conspiracy to go on a ride out yesterday affected nobody. This will severely affect the quality of your life in an adverse manner. Your electricity / gas bills already have a climate change levy, flights out have huge taxes on them.

Such taxes mean that the BRICS nations can destroy us and our living standards collaspe even further.


There is a weasle arguement in this in that well if it is proven to be untrue then we've saved loads of resources. Which is wrong because some of the green tech when you consider the entire product life cycle requires MORE energy input into an item than you will ever get out of its useful life. So you might as well have never made it in the first place.

Sure a Prius gets 60mpg but for the energy and material inputs into it you could probably make 2-3 conventional cars and be better off.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 21 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:42 - 21 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ulthar wrote:
You are going to have to back up every single claim you have just made.

And I have made the point of using the word "proof" which you have used a number of times and that tells me that you don't really have any understanding on the matter.


Your argument is incompetent.

Or are you honestly expecting him to quote the definition of the word 'conspiracy' from a dictionary? He doesn't need to back anything up, anyone with an ounce of sense or at least the gift of vision backed up by an ability to read basic English can find these things out all by themselves; why can't you?

On proof, a word you haven't used in this thread as of yet. Do you not think its probably a bad idea to bring that up given the so called proof for climate change is now held in high doubt?

On conspiracy, you say if there was one it would've been known by now. I would refer you back to the initial topic of this thread, is that not a conspiracy uncovered and indeed; still rolling out?

You're like some sort of weird born again christian on this topic, you call everyone else deniers but really, the only person denying anything is you. Not sure about anyone else, but I'm not denying anything, I actually don't know and on the strength of that a lot of the things being done in the name of Man Made Climate Change shouldn't be happening.

Since when was it a good idea to run great swathes of a country and its economy on the basis of 'I don't know but maybe...'

Oh hold on...

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