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Noxious89123
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: What car for around 3k? Reply with quote

I'm currently driving a 53 plate Ford Ka, and it's in quite a state. Leaking thermostat, knackered suspension, dodgy tyre wear, awful levels of corosion etc.

I don't consider it worth i to keep it any longer than I have to, as it's going to start getting expensive to keep it road legal. As my friend said, "I don't want to do THAT much welding!". It really is rotten as hell all under the sills etc.

Anyways, I'm looking to buy something else in about August time (so my insurance ends and I gain 1yrs NCB). I was thinking of a 2 Litre Focus Ghia. Decent grunt, and a nice equipment level, and the insurance isn't too bad considering the size of the car.

Something else that I had considered after looking today, was a 1.7 Ford Puma. I think they are a bit of a womans car, but apparently they have a rather tasty engine, and if the handling is anything like the Ka, it should be quit fun to drive. The disadvantage is th insurance would be a couple hundred more, and the boot is non-existant. But then I already have that problem with the Ka.

Had also thought of an Astra as an option, but I don't know much about them.

Would be interested to know what people think would be a good option for a 3k car. Looking for a 1.6 atleast, and nothing bigger than a 2.0. So, any thoughts?
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:17 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that was an unexpected suggestion. Quite a big car!

The TS2 models are pushing out 140bhp though, which is rather tasty. Interior isn't bad either. Just going to try a insurance quote, see what it comes back with... Thumbs Up Karma

EDIT: Comes back with exactly the same quote as a Puma! £1172.87

I will be being bummed on insurance, as I'm only soon going to turn 21, and will only have 1yrs NCB and an SP30 on my licence. But I can deal with that, its a once-a-year thing.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cars you mentioned can all be bought for around a grand so i hope you wasn't planning on spending it all on them!

I'd go for a late 90s BMW 5 series. Look great inside & out, plenty of equipment, a bit of grunt from what i've read & come in a lot of sizes.

A bit different but very classy looking & look they they'd be a nice ride.


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PostPosted: 17:18 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Re: What car for around 3k? Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:
I'm currently driving a 53 plate Ford Ka


Noxious89123 wrote:
Something else that I had considered after looking today, was a 1.7 Ford Puma. I think they are a bit of a womans car


Hasn't stopped you so far. Wink
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
The cars you mentioned can all be bought for around a grand so i hope you wasn't planning on spending it all on them!

This may be true, but the condition of a 1k car is usually pretty fucking dire. I'd rather pay more an get a lower mileage version with a FSH.
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I'd go for a late 90s BMW 5 series. Look great inside & out, plenty of equipment, a bit of grunt from what i've read & come in a lot of sizes.

Too expensive to insure, and the age means most will be relatively tatty.
cagiva gezzer wrote:
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bit of a womans car

Hasn't stopped you so far. Wink

Ha, smart arse. Best small car you can buy. It's a 1.3 with the insurance of a 1.0, so the best "first car" around imo. They handle well too, virtually zero body roll. The only things I dislike is mine is very tatty, and doesn't have a rev counter. I've had 110mph out of mine, it felt like it was going to take off Laughing (They're only spec'd to do 105mph too...)

The image of the Ka is something that put me off a bit, but I'm glad I saw past that. That's what made me think that maybe I should give a Puma reasonable consideration.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:
Misc wrote:
The cars you mentioned can all be bought for around a grand so i hope you wasn't planning on spending it all on them!

This may be true, but the condition of a 1k car is usually pretty fucking dire. I'd rather pay more an get a lower mileage version with a FSH.
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I'd go for a late 90s BMW 5 series. Look great inside & out, plenty of equipment, a bit of grunt from what i've read & come in a lot of sizes.

Too expensive to insure, and the age means most will be relatively tatty.


Not always the case, i'd look around at cheaper ones before i went spending more the they're worth. Could end up with a bargain.
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for the Pumas, my Ex had a 1.3 version and yes it did have some poke, gripped quite will too.

strange you mention getting a car becasue im looking too at around september time.


one im looking at is an astra, 2.0 T version.

dony forget Seat's, Golfs ect..

I have also looket at the % series and the E46,

Its just the insurance, all be 1.5-2K and the mileage on the cars is usually over 100k too Sad
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My usual bit of car buying advice. A more expensive car from a dealer will always have faults that creep out of the woodwork soon after buying. I would go for a cheaper car and spend some of the difference on a super service so you know it's tip top.
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good motor, but the turbos are troublesome if you get one on the way out, can cost around £700 as they can't be rebuilt, that is if you can find a place that has them, they are either vj30 or vj32's the dealers charge upwards of £1200.

For the money your suggesting, I'd look for a diesel, VW Golf GTTDI being the obvious one, cracking motor and if you get one 1997-2004 they are in a different tax bracket, £125 for 12 months, this also applies to some focus's and astra diesels, also, some beemers are in a slightly different tax bracket as well, slightly more at £150 per year.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Golf's are lovely cars, very nice interior for age & for a 98 car they've aged well.

The reliability would put me off getting another, my first MK4 was faultless but my second had gearbox issues which i hear is common due to 'gearboxes made out of cheese' Smile

Definitely go with the diesel models, the GTI are all slow especially the turbo. So avoid them unless you want to upgrade the ECU for more power.

Don't think i'll buy another VAG, damn coil packs & cambelts.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old are you Noxious?
My insurance is pretty low, just I aim for cars not associated with crashes and theft Laughing

Take my current 160HP Rover 75 1.8T...few problems with it originally but ive had nothing since the proper repair was done on it.
Been round Brands in it, handles great, only £850 fully comp!
Not bad for someone with 1yr NCB and a few claims.. Laughing

But you can get a decent car and have low insurance..

take the other beast. a Noble M12... 400HP.. only £1500 fully comp...

Heaven Mr. Green Thumbs Up

Also as for a decent suggestion, Seat Ibiza...newer looking ones, or a Leon..
If you have looked at Puma's...check the 2.5 V6 Cougar... can be had very cheap on eBay and insurance isnt too savage!

Better still, look for a semi decent condition Civic Type R if you want some form of fun...Jap Car...nice and reliable.

Or do a 27cows, Honda Jazz, no poke, looks horrendous...but you keep it despite the fantastic choice around you Wink Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: 18:24 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1597839.htm

Primera.

Touch over budget, but should be able to get one within budget. It's a newish car with low mileage which rides well and has reasonable reliability, economy, cheap to insure etc.
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm toying with the idea of selling my passat, is got 80k on the clocks
1.8 alloys air con esp etc, pretty damn good nick for a v plate.
Me wants 1700 squids and it cost me 390 tpft.

Would reccomend the passat, I love it but we're selling the accord n the missus will be sharing with me, she doesnt like the 'image' of mah vdub, but I do so the argument will continue.
Bah I wanna nuther 'bird, bloody women n kids Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would reccomend the Focus.
We have had one for 3 years now (an '03 1.8 tdci) and its great.
Lots of room, handles really well, comfy, reliable and parts are cheap.

We are looking for something slightly bigger as our 3 boys are filling the back seats a bit much now, but i'm struggling to find something i like as much - the only thing i'm interested in is a Focus Cmax...
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would reccomend the Focus.
We have had one for 3 years now (an '03 1.8 tdci) and its great.
Lots of room, handles really well, comfy, reliable and parts are cheap.

We are looking for something slightly bigger as our 3 boys are filling the back seats a bit much now, but i'm struggling to find something i like as much - the only thing i'm interested in is a Focus Cmax...

Try a same year Mondeo TDCi 2.0. My mate has one and loves it.

I also recommend a Focus/ I have the 1.6, decent car and Zetec upwards they handle well due to uprated suspension.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:49 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
beatnck2 wrote:
I would reccomend the Focus.
We have had one for 3 years now (an '03 1.8 tdci) and its great.
Lots of room, handles really well, comfy, reliable and parts are cheap.

We are looking for something slightly bigger as our 3 boys are filling the back seats a bit much now, but i'm struggling to find something i like as much - the only thing i'm interested in is a Focus Cmax...

Try a same year Mondeo TDCi 2.0. My mate has one and loves it.

I also recommend a Focus/ I have the 1.6, decent car and Zetec upwards they handle well due to uprated suspension.


My wife has an irrational hatred of Mondeo's, otherwise it would be top of the list...
For the last few days i have been driving a Peugeot 107 - its a horrible thing that makes me realise even more just how good the Focus is Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
https://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1597839.htm

Primera.

Touch over budget, but should be able to get one within budget. It's a newish car with low mileage which rides well and has reasonable reliability, economy, cheap to insure etc.


You'd be mad to buy a primera, they're very ugly, feel cheap and nasty and would feel like a step backwards after a ka cos they are shit to drive.

The focus/mondeo tdci's are nice to drive and not to bad a choice, personally I'd be looking at an older golf/leon/a3/bora tdi....
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

what ever you do dont DONT!! buy any ford tdci just do a google search on tdci wont start or flashing glow plug light the injectors go wrong £1200 to replace and reprogram the duel mass clutch it £1000 to replace moden common rail ford engines are terible and very expencive when they go wrong and they do go wrong .
having said that do you wanna buy my 54 plate mondeo tdci?...lol
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the Focus you suggest.

They are pretty decent cars to be honest. The motor's ok. Not that fast(I think I had an indiciated 130ish out of my old one), but you can get decent economy out of it with the correct driving style. They handle pretty well too due to the fancy (control blade) rear suspension on them.

Interior's nice, Air con, decent stereo as standard, T/C is standard on the Ghias, it has an off setting, but it's never really off which is very annoying. T/C is also completely flummoxed by snow like most cars.

The 12(?) spoke alloys are a pig to clean.

Engine's pretty solid, check for a coolant leak from the thermostat housing(not really a big deal, but you have to keep topping up the coolant), and a heavily corroded exhaust back box(MOT failure when it rots through, there are two layors. If it's gone through the first layor you'll have about year or two before you need a new one) before you buy.

Seats 5 easily. Had 8 in mine at one point although performance was slightly affected. Laughing Big boot, space saver rear tyre.

My old one was sold with 70k on the clocks for £1500 with one gap in the otherwise full history.

2k'll probably get your a 50ker with a full history in pretty good nick.

The one I had was a mark I (97-2000) I think the Mark II had a backbox that doesn't rot and intergrated front indis).

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PostPosted: 21:39 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mines a Ghia, and no traction control - Dance!
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

beatnck2 wrote:
Mines a Ghia, and no traction control - Dance!


O rly, I'll shut my face then. Mine had it, and it sucked. Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bleurgh, Traction control Sick Where's the fun if I can't use all that torque to do phat wheel spinz?

And lol, Primera. Wouldn't want one of those, thy're fugly. Can't afford a Noble Laughing Seat's arn't great for reliability. Guy at work has one and it eats ignition coils. The 2.5 Cougar is too big, would be too hefty on tax and fuel. Civic type-R is horendous on fuel, and they're not cheap cars either.

Not keen on a golf either, they're too chunky imo. I've decided against a Mazda6 as well, it's way too big, I'd never be able to park it anywhere.

Thanks for all the comments guys, it has certainly given me another perspective on what's good and what's no.

I'm still leaning towards a Focus at this time though. Pretty good equipment level, plenty of poke, cheap, and loads of them around.

And Ham, 130 from a car is plenty enough for me Smile The Ka will do a ton down country roads and sticks to the road well, don't really need anything more than that. It's just the extra grunt and overtaking power that I'm after Smile

Oh, and I must also add; Lol diesel. Don't think so. Laughing If i wanted somerthing agricultural, I'd buy a tractor Laughing

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PostPosted: 21:54 - 02 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Focus has about 75k on the clocks and since I bought it, I have done about 5 - 6,000 miles and the only issue i've had so far is a dud battery. My idle belt is squeaking a bit when cold aswell.
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