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Who do you want to run the country?
Labour
9%
 9%  [ 6 ]
Conservative
31%
 31%  [ 21 ]
Liberal Democrats
31%
 31%  [ 21 ]
Greens
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
SNP
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Plaid Cymru
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
BNP
9%
 9%  [ 6 ]
UKIP
7%
 7%  [ 5 ]
Other
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Spoilt Ballot
7%
 7%  [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 66

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JonB
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 05 May 2010    Post subject: Facebook General Election. Reply with quote

500,000 people have voted so far, current results are as follows: -
Gordon Brown 27%
David Cameron 31%
Nick Clegg 42%

To be fair half of Facebook users aren't old enough to vote. But that's quite a large poll. Thumbs Up

How about BCF? Night before the election, who are you going to vote for? Or is there anybody who still hasn't made their mind up?
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 05 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate polls like that, it's like the ones you get on surveys that only include the 3 main party leaders, no option for none of them or another party, I won't vote in the ones on YouGuv that ask that question because I won't contribute to false Daily Mail statistics such as "57% of voters want David Cameron to be Prime Minister!!!", purely because they only gave you the choice of 3.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted Tory.

Not many posters in this thread.

Maybe the title is putting them off. I nearly never bothered opening it (not a Facebook user).

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PostPosted: 13:58 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you know how to vote in real life?

The BBC will explain it to you. Brick Wall

We don't need a country run by someone who has been voted in by people who are too braindead to figure this out.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/first_time_voter/8518247.stm
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im going to vote soon.

Which one will legalise marijuana AND sort out everything else?
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expected the Beeb's instructions to be:

1. Visit polling station
2. Get ballot paper
3. Put a cross next to Labour
4. Put ballot paper in ballot box
5. Leave polling station

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PostPosted: 14:23 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted Labour. Doesn't really matter though as Labour will win the seat no matter what.
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
I voted Labour. Doesn't really matter though as Labour will win the seat no matter what.


Labour.. Really.. Each to their own but don't you think they've fucked the country up well and truly already.. Brown is about as charismatic as my arse.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BBC news crowd are great at dumming things down. They had a page explaining what a hung parliament was (presumably some people thought it was a reaction to the expenses scandal.)

One thing that really depressed me recently and please don't think I'm an old bufty as I merely surfed past radio 4 on the way to another station. It was some phone in debate type program, I was horrified at the attitude of the people phoning in, it was worse than the Jeremy Vine Show on R2.

It wasn't that they were thick as such, they were seriously bigoted and indescribably smug about themselves. When I type shit in here, I know no one cares. These folk talked as if the world revolved around them and seemed mortally offended that it might not be the case.

With this election, I don't think you can get a fag paper between the three main parties so I think people will just default to who they normally vote for. Its interesting, even with 43% of the vote Clegg still wouldn't get in to no. 10. Brown would though on 27%.

Or so we are told.

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PostPosted: 14:47 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
I voted Labour. Doesn't really matter though as Labour will win the seat no matter what.


Any how do you know this, a lot has happened since the last election and your vote for all you know could've tipped the scales in favour of Labour. If you didn't want them, which is almost what it sounds like then they the fuck did you vote for them.

-Edit- I forgot it's you, no need to respond.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted for them because I do want them Rolling Eyes But my vote will have next to no bearing on the result.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
I voted for them because I do want them Rolling Eyes

You like tax rises and cuts to public services? Confused
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
I voted for them because I do want them Rolling Eyes But my vote will have next to no bearing on the result.


Why? So they can swamp our borders with immigrants, or support people who can't be arsed to support themselves or so you can support someone else's brood because they decided to have 4 kids in a two bed terraced house on 1 income via increased taxes? If you ask me benefits should be withdrawn, take away the comfort blanket and don't support people who won't support themselves.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted conservative today.
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ad_87 wrote:
If you ask me benefits should be withdrawn...


How nice of you to remove my benefits. Unfortunately I can't get a job at the moment and I'm claiming job seekers allowance. Since I've left college I've been unemployed for 5 months, then got a job for 2 months but didn't get paid most of my money and now I'm back on the dole with 2 months experience that doesn't seem to make a jot of difference. I'm trying to support myself, but without a job it's impossible and it's seems impossible to get that job I need.

Labour at the moment will support me the most because I'm classed as poor and that's one of the reasons I've voted for them. There's also the fact I can't stand Clegg and Cameron and fear them coming to power (which is looking very likely).

Ad, if there are benefits to be had, unfortunately, some people will take advantage of that. In your current situation you may like the idea of removing all benefits, but if shit hits the fan in your life, I don't think you would look at it in the same way.

Yes immigration is an issue but whoever you vote for, we will still be in the EU and so that's not going to be made better any time soon.

Ste, tax rises and public spending cuts are inevitable if the deficit is going to be reduced. It won't happen using magic. I also think it's quite naive to think that the Lib Dems or the Conservatives aren't going to cut spending and increase taxes.


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PostPosted: 18:28 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
ms51ves3 wrote:
I voted for them because I do want them Rolling Eyes

You like tax rises and cuts to public services? Confused


To be fair, whoever gets in will hike up VAT and cut public services.

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PostPosted: 18:31 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

panrider_uk wrote:
To be fair, whoever gets in will hike up VAT and cut public services.

Mark


I could have sworn that at least one of them said in the television debate that they wouldn't go near the VAT.
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:
panrider_uk wrote:
To be fair, whoever gets in will hike up VAT and cut public services.

Mark


I could have sworn that at least one of them said in the television debate that they wouldn't go near the VAT.


They'll just increase the tax elsewhere then.
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:
panrider_uk wrote:
To be fair, whoever gets in will hike up VAT and cut public services.

Mark


I could have sworn that at least one of them said in the television debate that they wouldn't go near the VAT.


They say they have "no plans to". They didn't say they won't.

If the Tories get in they'll quite likely call in the IMF to audit the books so that they won't shoulder the blame for what's to come.

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PostPosted: 18:51 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
Ste, tax rises and public spending cuts are inevitable if the deficit is going to be reduced. It won't happen using magic. I also think it's quite naive to think that the Lib Dems or the Conservatives aren't going to cut spending and increase taxes.

Yes, tax rises and public spending cuts are inevitable if the deficit that Labour created is to be reduced. The deficit isn't going to be reduced by magic, but for some reason Labour think the situation will be improved if they continue spending rather than making cuts and savings.

If Labour stay in power then the deficit will become larger rather than smaller which means when cuts and tax rises do finally happen they'll have to be more severe. The country used to have gold reserves which would be able to help in this situation but unfortunately Gordon Brown sold those at rock bottom prices when he was chancellor.
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I could have sworn that at least one of them said in the television debate that they wouldn't go near the VAT.

Cameron has said that VAT rises are not in their plans. They've also said that it's impossible to fully assess the deficit from their position. Therefore VAT rises are a possibility, it might be necessary to deal with what Labour have done.
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably no point voting for the ones that want pakkis and muslims out. as they probably outnumber the normal people.
i will not be voting.
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
Ad_87 wrote:
If you ask me benefits should be withdrawn...


How nice of you to remove my benefits. Unfortunately I can't get a job at the moment and I'm claiming job seekers allowance. Since I've left college I've been unemployed for 5 months, then got a job for 2 months but didn't get paid most of my money and now I'm back on the dole with 2 months experience that doesn't seem to make a jot of difference. I'm trying to support myself, but without a job it's impossible and it's seems impossible to get that job I need.

Labour at the moment will support me the most because I'm classed as poor and that's one of the reasons I've voted for them. There's also the fact I can't stand Clegg and Cameron and fear them coming to power (which is looking very likely).

Ad, if there are benefits to be had, unfortunately, some people will take advantage of that. In your current situation you may like the idea of removing all benefits, but if shit hits the fan in your life, I don't think you would look at it in the same way.

Yes immigration is an issue but whoever you vote for, we will still be in the EU and so that's not going to be made better any time soon.

Ste, tax rises and public spending cuts are inevitable if the deficit is going to be reduced. It won't happen using magic. I also think it's quite naive to think that the Lib Dems or the Conservatives aren't going to cut spending and increase taxes.


I'm sorry to hear that, and you deserve help in getting employment or training, i just don't agree with the whole benefits culture and paying through the teeth in taxes to look after someone else. As for me being in your position, i've been there and used savings instead of claiming, recently actually, but i understand not everyone can do that and don't have a choice.. I can tell you're genuine, just a shame that the majority aren't.
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst cutting benefits out obviously isn't going to work, the system as a whole does need a long hard overhaul as it just doesn't work, not only is there abuse from households making a career of breeding, you have people caught in the benefits trap that quite literally can't afford to get back into work. Labour made murmurs about trying to address that years ago but I'm pretty sure nothing of any real substance actually happened there.

*edit* oops, wrong thread for that one Embarassed
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ad_87 wrote:
I'm sorry to hear that, and you deserve help in getting employment or training...


What's really ironic about that is the day after I got that job I was supposed to be starting the Backing Young Britain scheme, but because I then got a job meaning I had a break in my claim (but not big enough that I couldn't do a rapid re-claim) my job seekers started from the beginning again so I have another 5 months to wait until they will consider putting me on it Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 06 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benefits should be cut for career benefit claimants or for those who're offered work but don't accept it. The benefits system should be there as a safety net to be help people if necessary.

Child benefit should be completely removed under all circumstances, if you want to have a kid then you need to be able to pay for it.

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All the parties will support genuine job seekers. Labour support dole scrounging layabouts who've discovered that it's possible to make a career from having kids and claiming benefits.
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