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Pie-Roe
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 11 May 2010    Post subject: Planning for winter Reply with quote

I know summer is only just starting, but due to having to pay out quite a considerable chunk of my money come september I'm thinking 5 months in advance.

I currently have an RF900, which I love to bits, I'm not getting rid of it in the forseeable future, however I'm feeling commuting every day on it in the cold and wet will not be fun. It is quite low down, but quite a lot of torque and weight, it was cheap as chips so I'm not /too/ worried about it getting corroded/scratched, it's more that if I did happen to drop it, I wouldn't be able to pick it up on my own (I'm guessing, I don't want to test this theory for the sake of it)

I'm not really fussy what it is that I ride, as long as it's not a 2 stroke (unless it's like an MZ or CZ or similar) but I'm wondering what people think. My commute will be 8 miles 4 times a day, partly through village roads on icy 15 degree hills. I'm thinking any kind of 125 scooter or cg type thing. It might be a case of whatever I can pick up, it's not that much differernt in insurance for a cb500/gs500 or something similar. Maybe an old trailie, but I do feel that with the weight higher up it counterbalances the robustness and droppability of an off roader/sm.

Any thoughts?
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 11 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mz500 Very Happy mine gets used everyday, its a peice of shit but never lets me down, basically its that rotax lump, friggin bullet proof,
but the bike is solid as. i crashed it and it didnt even brake an indicator

if you want something a bit more stylish, then the ccm with the rotax lump]
or if you want the weight a bit lower then a flat tracker style bike,
i don't know if you got them in the uk but the st250
https://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/ST/ST250E/2004_ST250E_blk_540.jpg
or the srv250
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Yamaha_srv250.jpg
or a sr400
https://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq231/lennyway/post%2018/sr400_03wob0.jpg


basically i think a single cylinder bike is the way forward for winter hack awesomeness, aircooled simple awesomeness Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 11 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not quite an MZ, but what about a little 100cc 2 stroke? Light enough to pick up with one hand, thin tyres to cut through snow and not be the slowest thing on the road. My MZ coped well with the winter, but has since had problems which lead me to not trust it 100%.
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 11 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmnz wrote:
mz500 Very Happy mine gets used everyday, its a peice of shit but never lets me down, basically its that rotax lump, friggin bullet proof,
but the bike is solid as. i crashed it and it didnt even brake an indicator

if you want something a bit more stylish, then the ccm with the rotax lump]
or if you want the weight a bit lower then a flat tracker style bike,
i don't know if you got them in the uk but the st250
https://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/ST/ST250E/2004_ST250E_blk_540.jpg
or the srv250
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Yamaha_srv250.jpg
or a sr400
https://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq231/lennyway/post%2018/sr400_03wob0.jpg


basically i think a single cylinder bike is the way forward for winter hack awesomeness, aircooled simple awesomeness Thumbs Up


None of those bikes are available in the UK.

I'd suggest a four stroke or a 100cc Japanese two stroke. My MZ is good but it also breaks down regularly, and parts aren't that easy to get hold of.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 11 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a cb250 nighthawk, which was amazing in the snow this year actually. I could do with one of them.

H100/rxs100 etc as in a 2 stroke 100?

I don't want to spend more than 400 quid on the bike.

I've owned the 644 CCM before, was not that great, and I am reluctant to use a big single for every day transport, on my experiences with them before. As well as prefering a low seat height and COG for shitty weather.

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PostPosted: 11:57 - 11 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pyroforlife wrote:
I had a cb250 nighthawk, which was amazing in the snow this year actually. I could do with one of them.

H100/rxs100 etc as in a 2 stroke 100?

I don't want to spend more than 400 quid on the bike.

I've owned the 644 CCM before, was not that great, and I am reluctant to use a big single for every day transport, on my experiences with them before. As well as prefering a low seat height and COG for shitty weather.

Pyro


the ccm 644 is that not the suzuki engined beast??
the rotax is where its at. my mz500 has never broken down, truslack has your mt ever let you down??


but i doubt yopu get eith bike for 400 quid, may be you could get a cb250rs though,
pretty tough engine, low center of gravity, and easy to get cheap parts for
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 11 May 2010    Post subject: Re: Planning for winter Reply with quote

pyroforlife wrote:
I know summer is only just starting, but due to having to pay out quite a considerable chunk of my money come september I'm thinking 5 months in advance.

I currently have an RF900, which I love to bits, I'm not getting rid of it in the forseeable future, however I'm feeling commuting every day on it in the cold and wet will not be fun. It is quite low down, but quite a lot of torque and weight, it was cheap as chips so I'm not /too/ worried about it getting corroded/scratched, it's more that if I did happen to drop it, I wouldn't be able to pick it up on my own (I'm guessing, I don't want to test this theory for the sake of it)

I'm not really fussy what it is that I ride, as long as it's not a 2 stroke (unless it's like an MZ or CZ or similar) but I'm wondering what people think. My commute will be 8 miles 4 times a day, partly through village roads on icy 15 degree hills. I'm thinking any kind of 125 scooter or cg type thing. It might be a case of whatever I can pick up, it's not that much differernt in insurance for a cb500/gs500 or something similar. Maybe an old trailie, but I do feel that with the weight higher up it counterbalances the robustness and droppability of an off roader/sm.

Any thoughts?
Pyro


I looked at rf900 spec, 203kg dry weight, the same as my zx7r and i picked that up no worrys when it went over, and im a short fella 5ft 6 and weigh 11 stone. It is heavy but not difficult
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 11 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about an SZR660? Small, light, handles well, not too tall, not too slow.
https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20%20A/Yamaha%20SZR660%20%202.jpg
Sure they are ugly but they are also cheap to buy and cheap to run.
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 11 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certainly sounds like a job for a CG125.

Or maybe an XR125?
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 11 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmnz wrote:


the ccm 644 is that not the suzuki engined beast??
the rotax is where its at. my mz500 has never broken down, truslack has your mt ever let you down?


Yep, 644 is Suzuki, 640 is Rotax (CCM R30). I hate Rotax engines, but probably cause mine are abused mil-spec ones - I have had 2 Rotax 500 engines fail due to knackered bearings in the bottom end, it seems Rotax found out about this and superseded the output shaft bearing with a heavy duty roller bearing.


£400 is good money for an RXS100/H100/GP100/RS100 2 stroke.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 11 May 2010    Post subject: Re: Planning for winter Reply with quote

pyroforlife wrote:
My commute will be 8 miles 4 times a day, partly through village roads on icy 15 degree hills. I'm thinking any kind of 125 scooter or cg type thing.

Maybe an old trailie, but I do feel that with the weight higher up it counterbalances the robustness and droppability of an off roader/sm.

Any thoughts?
Pyro


Old trallie would be the best way.

Avoid anything that has masses of plastic.

More upright, wider bars makes them no end easier to control in winter. Weight is not much higher up, and remember it will be a lot less than your average commuter anyway. Take the rough and tumble a lot better, so less chance of forking out for damaged stuff. Add in keep the knobblies on for the odd bit of snow and you are sorted.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 11 May 2010    Post subject: Re: Planning for winter Reply with quote

iooi wrote:

More upright, wider bars makes them no end easier to control in winter. Weight is not much higher up, and remember it will be a lot less than your average commuter anyway. Take the rough and tumble a lot better, so less chance of forking out for damaged stuff. Add in keep the knobblies on for the odd bit of snow and you are sorted.


But again, you can put a wider set of bars on an RXS, it comes in at under 100kg and has fixed footpegs that touch down before anything else so protect the bike. Just lacks the knobblies, but rope round the tyres is just as good for traction.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 11 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i40.tinypic.com/nn1cox.jpg

With a 110 engine is what you want, it's what I commute 9 miles each way on.

It does 120mpg!

Cruises at 45-50.

Bits are silly cheap.

You will look like a tit though.
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 11 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a bandit 600 the S type with the fairing, I got one and I ride all year on it. Comfatable riding position, bullet proof engine. mines on 67000 miles and all i do is change the oil every 4 to 5k. Ive been out in some nasty weather and the bike soaks it up. Never had an electrical problem and with a decent set of tyres loads of grip and feedback. I use avon st storms and my mates on the sports bikes well you see them backing it off on the bends and I just go past laughing. Good on fuel, reliable cheap on the insurance loads of mods out there need I say more Very Happy
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