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Bambam3
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 13 May 2010    Post subject: Revving higher the longer I ride? Reply with quote

Dunno if I'm being paranoid, but the past few days it seems like the bike revs higher the more it's ridden, in all gears.

It's a Honda XR125, 4stroke, just seems louder, a bit more screamy maybe as it warms right up after a few miles, and I'm changing gear every two minutes.

Is this normal? Engine problem?




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Robby
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 13 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engine speed is always the same for given speed in a given gear, unless the clutch is slipping. So if 40mph in 4th needs 5000rpm when you start off and 6000rpm after an hour, your clutch could be slipping. Check the adjusters on the lever and on the engine to make sure there's enough slack.

A bit more noise on a warm engine isn't unusual, particularly on air-cooled ones. An oil change may make it a little quieter.

I think it's about a 1000 mile oil change interval on that engine anyway, assuming it's a small 4-stroke aircooled honda engine that takes about a litre of oil. Honda singles have never liked low, old or dirty oil.
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Bambam3
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 13 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers.

How much slack should there be roughly? How do I measure it?

I'mma put some new oil in tomorrow and see if that helps a bit, should be due a change shortly I think anyway.
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 13 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A manual or the internet will tell you how much. Then on the sides of oil bottles you normally get a clear bit where you can see how much is in there and there are notches showing you how many litres are in the bottle - a bit like a kitchen jug.

Also, your bike should have a dipstick or sightglass.
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Bambam3
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 13 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers, yeah got the oil measurements ok from the manual (0.9l), just the clutch slack wasn't in there.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 13 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless I'm misunderstanding you measure it at the lever, it's the amount you can pull the lever in without any resistance from the cable. Should be measured in cms in the manual, on my bike its 2-3.
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Bambam3
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 13 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pickledswede wrote:
Unless I'm misunderstanding you measure it at the lever, it's the amount you can pull the lever in without any resistance from the cable. Should be measured in cms in the manual, on my bike its 2-3.


Hardly needing a pull right? Lever feeling almost loose for 2/3cm?
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 13 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep that's how I measured it, I just used one finger and barely pressure at all and moved it in til I felt the resistance
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Bambam3
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 13 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Thumbs Up

Does it matter where it's adjusted.. i:e top of cable at the lever or bottom near engine?
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 13 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the general rule is adjust at the lever until there's no adjustment left, then use the adjuster by the engine, but at this point you'll probably want to order a new cable as it suggests your one is stretched!
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Bambam3
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 13 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pickledswede wrote:
I think the general rule is adjust at the lever until there's no adjustment left, then use the adjuster by the engine, but at this point you'll probably want to order a new cable as it suggests your one is stretched!


Cheers again fella.

If you have to adjust near engine you mean, it may be stretched?

Managed to get 10mm with the lever, that's it. Bike needs 10-20mm.. so it's right, but would prefer 15mm to be dead in the middle.

Struggling to get the nuts loose down the bottom, but the cable has a fair bit of slack on it's way down there. I usually hang a motion alarmed padlock under there from the cable while it's locked up, so figure getting the nuts loose it could takea bit of that slack in right?
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Bambam3
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 13 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got it, cheers again.

Lever goes back alot before the 'click' and resistance hit, then it's not much of a pull til it's touching the grip.

Strange, but if the manual says it's right, it's gotta be I guess.

Will find out how she rides tomorrow.

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PostPosted: 19:25 - 13 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would give it a test ride now so you can adjust it again if needs be, wouldn't want you or I to have got the wrong end of the stick and you end up having to adjust it again tomorrow morning!
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