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Jayy
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Yamaha XT 660 Reply with quote

https://upload.ecvv.com/upload/Product/200801/C2008319121748435345_2007_Yamaha_XT_660X.jpg

Opinions on one of these? I've been looking at the KTM Dukes but this has caught my eye recently as well. I need to sort out my next bike in the next 2 weeks so it's almost decision time.

Anyone got/owned one?
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the predecessor and I like it XT600E (2003).
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engine isn't the best and they are quite heavy, but reliable and look good. There are plenty of options out there, if possible try them all before making a decision.
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I like the look of the older ones better, but if that one was the only choice, I'd have one Smile

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PostPosted: 14:28 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the "R" version - same bike but longer travel suspension, larger wheels and worse brakes.
It's a very good bike - great fun on back roads. Also reliable and easy to service (much easier than the KTMs).

Downsides? A bit heavy for this sort of bike (though not a problem unless planning to go off-road), and not much fun over about 75mph. Oh, and my wife tried pillion on it ONCE. Can't get her on again! She is spoiled by the VFR though.
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer the look of the KTM but they're all miles away and I can't be arsed travelling 100 miles to go see one. I'm not too fussed on using it off road, will be the odd occassion if at all. I just want something fun to ride around, I don't do long trips and I don't commute, usually only go out for a few hours at a time on the bike. I really want a supermoto but it depends what's around at the time. I don't want to be stuck without a bike for weeks, ideally want to sell mine and get one straight away.

I love the VTR 1000 SP1 too, I know it's a sports bike but I fancy something loud and torquey. Even considered Aprilia RSV 1000s but put off by the reliability of Aprilias on the whole. If I remember rightly, a few people on here said the RSVs were pretty reliable. I also have a need for something with twin exhausts haha.
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are meant to be a bit gutless for their size/weight - or so I understand from the way G Harps on.

No doubt he will be hear shortly, praising baby jesus, telling you the xt is the devil, and that the lord loves ktms. hallelujah!
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know what tyres they are?
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must admit, it's one I considered for the road...but keep getting told going from a v-twin to a single, I'd find it a bit sluggish. And possible not as good for touring. Not that I go trekking about on two wheels as much as I used to. It hurts too much!
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having ridden an Xt and G's ktm 690 i would choose ktm anyday. The xt Just feels gutless really compared to the ktm.

Me on the Xt :

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PostPosted: 18:32 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you would deffo go for the KTM over the XT given the choice?
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

In your case where its going to be used just for fun and not commuting then yes. But thats only because i dont have a clue about ktm service/runing costs ect. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hazylogic wrote:
Does anyone know what tyres they are?


Avon Distanzia I think.
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paxovasa wrote:
I have the predecessor and I like it XT600E (2003).


Pax, have you posted any pictures of your bike anywhere?
I also have a blue 600E and like seeing how others look.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suspension is squidgy, engine is gutless for it's size.

DRZ400sm is as fast and a lot more fun andbetter handling, let alone a KTBOOM.
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The XT is a low powered commuter. Could always whip the plastics off your zx6, stick some big bars and a restricter on Smile.
What it does have is 6000 mile service intervals as opposed to 3000 on the KTM. For 'fun' the KTM makes a lot more sense - lighter, better brakes and suspension, more power and a bit more midrange - well, it's not massively torquey, but it's going to have as much 'go' at say 2/3rds revs that the yamaha has at full revs (been riding my new toy on Wednesday now that IS 'torquey'!).
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
The XT is a low powered commuter. Could always whip the plastics off your zx6, stick some big bars and a restricter on Smile.
What it does have is 6000 mile service intervals as opposed to 3000 on the KTM. For 'fun' the KTM makes a lot more sense - lighter, better brakes and suspension, more power and a bit more midrange - well, it's not massively torquey, but it's going to have as much 'go' at say 2/3rds revs that the yamaha has at full revs (been riding my new toy on Wednesday now that IS 'torquey'!).


Basically, don't bother with it over the KTM? What's your new toy?
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beta rev3 - despite my noob skills, even in 3rd it would chug up a silly steep hills, at least 2 in 1, maybe near 3 in 1 I reckon (and yes, that is the right way around) and just keep on going up at low revs - of course using 'technique' you should get the speed up at the bottom etc, but the bike seems to be a decent chunk beyond my skill levels Smile.

Anyway, my personal opinion has always been the XTs are a waste of time - if I have a low power bike (and I do enjoy them), I want something in return - ie lower weight. Paying lots of money for a low power bike that's still heavy doesn't seem a great idea.

If you want the 6000 mile service intervals, I reckon the BMW G650 is well worth a look - also from what I remember it had a fairly 'punchy' feel to the engine. Only five gears, but the ratios were actually wider than on the KTM.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do keep coming back to the KTMs, been looking at the XT 660 & them Yamaha FMX 650s.

Think it's gotta be a KTM or not bother, don't wanna get another bike and look at it thinking hmm, not keen on it.

What generally needs doing every 3,000 miles with the KTMs? Is it costly?
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every 6000 it's a valve check, which is nastier - every 3000 it's just basic oil, filters etc.
Despite your reluctance, I think the BMW is a good bike to consider.

It's probably not the right model (this one is half way between supermoto and trail), but this is presumably not to far from you BMW X-Country if you wanted to blag a test ride.
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recoil Jay wrote:
I do keep coming back to the KTMs, been looking at the XT 660 & them Yamaha FMX 650s.



i think you mean the honda fmx650,
which is a waste of a bike, they managed to get a fairly good underpowered already xr650 and make it crap, by detuning it,

the thing i dont like about the xt660's is the exhaust running under the bike, and the fact that its fuel injected,
the mz bagihira which uses the same engine is great, it has carbs, and i managed 100mph on one, (with a sprocket change)
a supermoto xr650 wopuld be a good option, the fmx is a waste of space


i had a ktm450 sx, (stupid 4 speed model) it was pretty damn quick
but useless for the road, maintainance is no worse on a ktm than any other bike, and here in nz it probably the best thing to buy as they are the best selling bikes, so parts are reasonably easy to get, and all the bike shops regularly work on them (if you don't like working on bikes yourself)
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 15 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmnz wrote:

i had a ktm450 sx, (stupid 4 speed model) it was pretty damn quick
but useless for the road, maintainance is no worse on a ktm than any other bike

KTM450SX is equivelent to the CRF450 - both are competition motocross bikes with pretty harsh service intervals based around competition use - people tend to be much laxer for general riding.
However these don't really reflect the road models sadly - my Husaberg 501e certainly felt more lively than my KTM, despite probably having less power - it did however have less weight and a higher CoG.

I suspect the FMX got the XR650L lump? - I believe is different to the XR650R, which has a very good reputation from Baja etc.
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 16 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

moto wrote:
Paxovasa wrote:
I have the predecessor and I like it XT600E (2003).


Pax, have you posted any pictures of your bike anywhere?
I also have a blue 600E and like seeing how others look.


Check this thread out Thumbs Up

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=197132

Edit: It was a stolen and recovered bike so I am trying to get it put back to standard Thumbs Up

Used parts are hard to come by though.
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 16 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats your budget jay? Question
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 16 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the minute, £2,500 but I can stretch to about £3,000 if needed.
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