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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: What would you call a spanner like this? Reply with quote

Like a normal open ended wrench but with a lot less metal around the jaw area so it can be used in a tight spot without fouling the parts next to it.

It's for adjusting the tappets on my bullet. I've fitted some chunkier pushrod adjusters to it but they have a larger hex. It is very tight trying to turn them, you can only get about 1/8 of as turn on the spanner before the head of the spanner fouls the casing. Makes things more laborious than it needs to be.

It's a bit that has to be done fairly regularly so having the correct tool would be a good idea.

I know I could grind down a standard spanner but I'm sure I've seen purpose made ones with narrow, pointy jaws that have a ridge of metal along the edge of the jaw to give them strength and prevent them springing open as easily. The thickness of the spanner isn't an issue (within reason). Just don't know what to call them.

I've done a rough picture of what I mean:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=72595
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuck knows.
but just get one of these and mill it or attack it with an angle grinder.

https://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Images/DB_Detail/_27503_140156.jpg
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stinky can't you sacrifice a ring spanner by cutting out a section out of the end? I've done that many times and never had one spread, you can get in some very tight places especially if you use a cranked ring spanner.
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:
im sure you could ask someone off here very nicely to mill the sides off and weld it, so its a bit 'deeper'

anyway, whilst looking i found these cool or what!


what a shit invention Laughing broken fingers easily, and if theres enough room to turn your hand theres enough room to get a spanner in.
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Says a man who's never tried to fit a fiesta water pump Very Happy

Only issue I see is the sizes - 5.5mm isn't used much at all and 7mm is for jubilee clips mostly. 13mm is nowhere near as common as 12.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
. 13mm is nowhere near as common as 12.


what about outside the bike/car world?
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oi!

The one I want is 13mm.

Most of the nutys and bolts on that bike take either a 13mm or 1/2" whitworth (which are to all intents and purposes, the same thing).

Pete. wrote:
Stinky can't you sacrifice a ring spanner by cutting out a section out of the end? I've done that many times and never had one spread, you can get in some very tight places especially if you use a cranked ring spanner.

Genius!

As a matter of fact, if I cut a 13mm combination spanner in half and split the ring, that'll be the exact tool for the job. Open spanner to hold the pushrod still, ringer to turn the adjuster.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

is that a crow foot patter spanner?
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 20 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Stinky can't you sacrifice a ring spanner by cutting out a section out of the end? I've done that many times and never had one spread, you can get in some very tight places especially if you use a cranked ring spanner.


+1

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PostPosted: 17:22 - 20 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

use a standard 12mm japco tool kit open ended spanner, file out to 1/2".
The thinner jaws will allow the additional access you require.

If you get really stuck I can send you one I made earlier !
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 21 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:

I remember imperial ((frighteningly commplicated & whoever thought it up, (mr Whitworth I suppose), needs horse whipping)), but I have mainly worked with metric and have always thought of 13mm and 10mm as the most commenly used sizes.


The thing is, at least some of the imperial systems were worked out from an engineering point of view rather than by what is convenient to do the maths on.

The unified system is one such. They worked out what thread pitches (a coarse and a fine) would be the strongest for a particular diameter of bolt.

Don't malign Mr Whitworth too much. He came up with the first, standardised series of threads. Prior to then people just did what they felt like. On older steam engines etc., each nut goes on it's own specific bolt, they aren't interchangeable and if you need to replace one, you have to make it.

Whitworth invented his thread system in 1841. Metric threads were standardised in 1947.
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 21 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Whitworth thread is still the strongest symmetrical threadform. He was a clever bunny, and his spanners make good fishing weights Smile
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 22 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Looks to me like the type of spanner you need you be one for doing brake pipes on a car. Basically a 6 point ring spanner with one side missing.

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:01 - 24 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

There you go, open ring spanners:

https://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/sp-69-4691-34575-stahlwille-double-ended-open-ring-spanner-17-x-19-mm.asp

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