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Tim..
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 31 Jan 2010    Post subject: Tim's VFR nc30 project. Reply with quote

This is my VFR400R nc30, had it since i was 21 as a birthday present which was 'restored' by my bro and dad. So it holds a lot of sentimental value to me.

Sad to say it broke down on me and years went past as theres always something/other bikes more important to do. She slowly got relegated from a nice warm garage to covered up outside in the rain. She is now in a very poor state to say the least, any other bike i would have just broken it and sold the good bits.

This is my build thread as i intend to bring her back to her former glory with some nice upgrades to boot. Please bear with me as this may take a while, money, recession yadda yadda.

Apologies for the lame camera pics, they wont all be this bad (hopefully).

Here she is just before she came off the road.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/PICT1600.jpg

This weekend have started stripping her down, many of the parts aren't even usable.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo006.jpg
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo018.jpg
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo014.jpg
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo023.jpg
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo025.jpg

This was the last time she was on the road

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo019.jpg

And i managed to source this little gem to help me with getting the paint right Cool

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo027.jpg

Now need to source the castle sockets so i can get the engine and swing arm etc out and start cleaning
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 31 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bit rough compared to how it was but its hardly a dog. Well worth restoring to its former glory.
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 31 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool Sweet! Will watch your progress!

Nice calipers! Very Happy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

only a small update, took some of the 'honda only' bolts and brackets into work to see how they would benefit from some time in the sand blaster.

Works quite well but has taken the coating off, so have sprayed them with oil and bagged them up till i decide what to do with them. Choices are....

Paint
Zinc coating (standard for the brackets?)
Nickel plating
or Chrome plating (standard for fairing bolts?)

Anyway heres some before and after pics, forgot to photo the many bolts, washers and spacers i did aswell though D'oh
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo029.jpg
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo031.jpg
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo030.jpg
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo033.jpg
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 06 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another little up date, the RVF rear shock linkage and dogbone arrived (which will jack the rear end up slightly, hopefully giving a bit more rear wheel traction ), and as expected needed a clean up.

This is what it looked like after a can of brake cleaner
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo034.jpg

Taking note of how deep the bearings were pushed in, had to make a special tool to press them out.
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo037.jpg

After, ready for paint or plate
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo038.jpg
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo042.jpg

Also won a set of RVF400 forks off the bay, so hopefully get them stripped and 'ohlinised' fairly soon
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 08 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Week 3 update, bit more stripping down, namely the rear drive train and suspension, still haven't received the castle socket to remove the engine and swingarm. Also stripped the fairings down. Few more bits to bead blast at work now Cool

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo039.jpg

This is all the removed parts and some of the other stored VFR400 parts I have collected for the project
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo045.jpg
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 08 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's looking good mate. I'll be keeping an eye on it I would love an NC30 I think i'll have to buy one before they become rediculously expensive or extinct.
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 10 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not done too much this week, did a bit more bead blasting to the fixings and bagged them up ready for plate.

Still waiting for delivery of my RVF400 forks
Still waiting for Honda to get me the castle socket so I can remove the engine

Did speak to Rick Oliver about some smaller bits and some RVF clip-ons, just waiting for him to get back to me.
Also contact Andy at Kais about getting an Ohlins rear shock and some mods for the forks, also waiting for him to get back to me.

Hopefully have some more progress at the weekend.
Would like to get the bare frame and start cleaning it.

Carl_steveo wrote:
It's looking good mate. I'll be keeping an eye on it I would love an NC30 I think i'll have to buy one before they become rediculously expensive or extinct.

Thanks bud. VFR's are not quite at that point but i know what you mean. Trying to find good RVF parts on the other hand, rather difficult.

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PostPosted: 05:04 - 11 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what i've heard and seen it's pretty common for people to make their own castle nut instead of ordering one. Get an impact socket of the correct diameter and angle grind the castle shape out of it. needs to be an impact socket though as they have thicker walls.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 11 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
From what i've heard and seen it's pretty common for people to make their own castle nut instead of ordering one. Get an impact socket of the correct diameter and angle grind the castle shape out of it. needs to be an impact socket though as they have thicker walls.


That has already run through my head, but I think I need two different sizes meaning i would have to re-buy two impact sockets. The Honda castle socket is double sided (if that makes sense). So if I'm spending money I'd rather go on the correct tool for the job.

Plus I don't like taking a grinder to anything snap-on Wink
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 12 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

More bead blasting, hopefully be done with that machine soon

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo046.jpg
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo075.jpg

Didn't manage to get to Honda today but the RVF forks have arrived, and they are in pretty good nick, very minimal marks to the sliders and the preload adjusters at the haven't any marks on them.
So i wasted no time in getting them to bits so i can have them re-anodised, titanium nitrided and fit new seals, bushes etc. Will also look into how much getting the internals upgraded would cost.

They come apart quite easily:
Prise dust seal away and undo oil seal spring clip
Undo the allen key bolt at the bottom of the shock
Undo the top mount of the shock and pull internals out
Good solid pull and the stanchion comes out of the slider with all bushes and seal.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo001.jpg
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo041.jpg

Spoke to Andy white at Kais and hopefully have an Ohlins rear shock turn up at my front door at some point.

Don't think I will get much more done this weekend, dam valentines day Mad

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PostPosted: 18:09 - 20 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some more progress.
Have bead blasted the fork bottoms and sliders. The fork stanchions are off to get rechromed and titanium nitrided. Hopefully drop the sliders off to get re-anodised next weekend.

Might have also found some RC30 fitment PVM wheels .

The castle tool has also turned up from Honda as well as the fork seals etc from David Silver.

Have found a needed genuine rear body panel and rad fan, will pack these away till i need them later on in the build.

Tomorrow will hopefully be a day of stripping the last of the bike down and getting some more pictures.

EDIT for progress

Rear dive hub is now totally stripped ready for replating and new disk (have also since removed wheel location pins and disk).
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo023-1.jpg

Engine, frame, swingarm and loom are now all seperated ready for cleaning.
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo019-1.jpg

And I knew that old 250 frame would come in useful one day. VFR forks fit RGV yokes Thumbs Up
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo039-1.jpg

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PostPosted: 22:03 - 22 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

that'l be my old frame, caused me alot of pain has that Shocked
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 22 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have the tank for that at the rents, best bet for the swinger mate is to use a complete vfr rear end, shock, linkages and all

you'll also need to machine 1mm of each side of the4 swinger for it to fit in the frame.

Oh, Hi by the way
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 23 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

wabbithunter wrote:
that'l be my old frame, caused me alot of pain has that Shocked


Still walking (just) and talking though bud Wink

wabbithunter wrote:
i have the tank for that at the rents, best bet for the swinger mate is to use a complete vfr rear end, shock, linkages and all

you'll also need to machine 1mm of each side of the4 swinger for it to fit in the frame.

Oh, Hi by the way


Cool, can i have that tank off you? Have you got the rgv top yoke lying around somewhere?

I can see me re-doing all the shock mounts on the frame to get that swinger to fit Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 19:31 - 23 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mate i cant remember of the top of my head, but im pretty sure the top mount needed to be relocated! you can still get away with using vfr shock and linkages.

as said earlier, i do believe i have the yoke aswell, most prob got quite a few other bits.
find out about that bracket this weekend, would be sweet for my nitrous set up!! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 03 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit of an update this week, the fork stanchions are still off being rechromed and titanium nitrided care of All Bike Engineering. Dropped the sliders off to be re-anodised on sat. Hopefully be able to rebuild the forks this weekend and get some pics.

Also had a couple of deliveries this week, some smaller parts, the new yokes and the much awaited 'package' has arrived. Here's a teaser shot Wink

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo026.jpg

Still waiting on delivery on the wheels, but they will be sent straight out for painting, still need to get some tyres and disks for them anyway.

Few more bolts to bead blast then i can take them all to be re-coated in zinc. Then order the headstock bearings then the rebuilding of the chassis and picture taking can begin, happy days.

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PostPosted: 19:25 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheels, shock, master cylinder and yokes have all arrived Thumbs Up
Have to send all the fixings off to be recoated, wait on the different fork components and clean the frame and swingarm up before i can start rebuilding anything.

Another teaser pic for you all.
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo0bf01.jpg

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PostPosted: 00:24 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ap and pvm, CUNT Drooling Praying
please sir, more sir! haha
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PostPosted: 09:07 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SES, PVM, AP and Ohlins Wink
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Middle Finger Mad Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 06 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the fork sliders back from the anodisers but the stanchions aren't ready yet. So cant rebuild the forks, dam.

Have got all the fixings etc ready and bagged up to go to be re-coated in zinc. Total of 133 parts.
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo025-1.jpg

Alot of them will be replaced with titanium counterparts but any of the re-coated honda fixings I dont use will go on the 'Hondzuki' race bike.

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PostPosted: 16:40 - 06 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

you, sir, have far too much money burning a hole in your pocket at the moment!
kindly donate some to a worthy cause

ME

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PostPosted: 23:18 - 06 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me sir? Pocket burning money, no sir. Hard earned and nearly single because of it, yes sir.

Decided that I don't need finger tips so I thought I'd get to work cleaning. The swingarm isn't quite perfect yet but the hub came up brilliantly. You can see by the state of the uncleaned frame what I had to start with.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo039-2.jpg

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PostPosted: 16:43 - 20 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got all the fittings and mounts etc back from the platers. All 133 of them Thumbs Up .

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo035.jpg

All got some new stainless bolts for the chain runner.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo006-1.jpg

Got the stanchions back, painted the bottoms in Ohlins silver and put the seals onto them ready for when I build them back up.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo020.jpg

And finally I put the new head stock bearings onto the yokes.

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr119/Timon1983/VFR%20400%20nc30/Photo051.jpg

Now I'm waiting for a rear disc before I can rebuild the rear drive hub assembly.

Still working on getting the frame clean, tis taking a while Rolling Eyes .

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