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 Posted: 20:30 - 21 May 2010 Post subject: Running in ... |
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I'm picking up a new 125 c raptor next saturday, delayed caus i insured it with the wrong reg ...
Anyway i've seen and sat on it, and the mechanics said i will have to ride sedatly for the first 500 miles until the initial service ..
How much of this is strictly true and how much is over caution ..
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What they mean is don't wring it's neck with high revs.
Break it's back with low revs and hi load.
Generally smooth operation no erratic frantic gas on gas off.
Sedate is the word.
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I broke mine in pretty much as hard as I could. Loads of revs and loads of engine braking. Have a read around the net, loads of conflicting information about it.
But fundamentally, you pays your money you makes your choices...  ____________________ My Bikes: Piaggio NRG| Aprilia RS 125| Suzuki GSX-R 600|Yamaha Fazer Ducati 848
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Will ask them what they will do at 500 mile service and what they want cash wise for it ...  ____________________ Fuk um !! |
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I followed this guide for breaking my bike in, and Ive not had any problems. It basically says the first 200 miles are crucial for break in, and you should do alot of hard accelerating and hard engine braking to get the engine to bed in properly, then ride it like its stolen for the next rest of the 500 miles! I honestly dont think it matters how you break in a new bike, but I just went off this guide!
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If nothing ref warranty is up, and they want to much then i have Bean on here who would do it for me ...  ____________________ Fuk um !! |
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Yep, no worries mate
As for running in, there are 2 schools of thought...
Run it in gently = will last longer overall
Run it in hard = wont last as long, but will make more power.
Its a hotly contested subject, but i know a few engine builders and they all use the 'run it in hard' method - with good results on the dyno, and no significant loss of reliability.
The most important thing with a 2 stroke is not to let it sit at constant revs for too long - vary the revs, be gentle when its cold but otherwise give it some work to do, thats the only way everythings going to bed in properly.
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Thanks,
I think with the combination of me getting used to it, and being third party only, will mean agood meduim between the two thoughts on running in ...  ____________________ Fuk um !! |
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I was told on my Rieju the run in was 500KM (bout 325 Mile I think). I have been taking gently so far, but I am still a newbie motorcyclist so taking it easy and learning the ropes anyway. I am still doing that cling on to the handlebars and look terrified at 40mph thing at the moment. Its going to be a while before I really open her up on any level  |
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| ms51ves3 wrote: | | stinkwheel wrote: | Is this the stingiest motorcycle dealer in the world?
I've never bought a brand new vehicle without having the shakedown service thrown in for free. |
Why do so many people assume this?
A service is a service, if you don't want it, don't take it and accept the consequences (if there are any).
Personal preference is just ignore the run in altogether. If it's up to temperature, I'll ride it like I normally would, especially on a 2 stroke. There is only the piston to run in, why does it need 500 miles? Are you teaching it how to be a piston?
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Likewise IT SHOULD BE FREE.
As for this FANTASY WORLD statement YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO IDEA of how many parts are required to connect the piston to the rear wheel. Let alone the, the head bearings, the brakes & ALL THE OTHER PARTS that make up A NEW MOTORCYCLE
It seems we have another FRESHMAN from "Mushroom College"
Can I add you to my toolbox? Just to cheer me up whenever I've got a gearbox to strip & rebuild.
"Running a bike in" means EXACTLY THAT. A NEW BIKE IS NOT JUST AN ENGINE. The same applies to total rebuilds
The 1st service is also a vital safety check, its not just an oil change & new plug, as some VERY NAIVE PEOPLE (spanners) seem to think. Every nut & bolt has to be checked & re torqued. If thats all a 1st service was, the dealers would be having an all out war to get a monopoly on them. sales of oil, spark plugs & filters would be a real money spinner. Most if not all franchises are re embursed the labour costs by the manufacturers anyway (or add it into their OTR retail price, they say they don't but its true) as they are with warranty claims.
So DEMAND a free service & EXPECT TO PAY for parts, & ask them to return your old spark plug/s before you leave you pride & joy in their hands.
Usually I've found that doing this results in "The plug/s didn't need replacing sir".
Instead of "We changed the plugs, that'll be £££ sir" Well can I have the old 1/s back then? (aged 16 & naive as fook) "No sorry it snapped when we removed it". Oh OK then, thanks **Grrrrrr that won't ever happen again** & it hasn't. ____________________ To FINNISH 1ST, 1ST you gotta FINNISH.
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Likewise IT SHOULD BE FREE.
As for this FANTASY WORLD statement YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO IDEA of how many parts are required to connect the piston to the rear wheel. Let alone the, the head bearings, the brakes & ALL THE OTHER PARTS that make up A NEW MOTORCYCLE
It seems we have another FRESHMAN from "Mushroom College"
Can I add you to my toolbox?  Just to cheer me up whenever I've got a gearbox to strip & rebuild.
"Running a bike in" means EXACTLY THAT. A NEW BIKE IS NOT JUST AN ENGINE. The same applies to total rebuilds
The 1st service is also a vital safety check, its not just an oil change & new plug, as some VERY NAIVE PEOPLE (spanners) seem to think. Every nut & bolt has to be checked & re torqued. If thats all a 1st service was, the dealers would be having an all out war to get a monopoly on them. sales of oil, spark plugs & filters would be a real money spinner. Most if not all franchises are re embursed the labour costs by the manufacturers anyway (or add it into their OTR retail price, they say they don't but its true) as they are with warranty claims.
So DEMAND a free service & EXPECT TO PAY for parts, & ask them to return your old spark plug/s before you leave you pride & joy in their hands.
Usually I've found that doing this results in "The plug/s didn't need replacing sir".
Instead of "We changed the plugs, that'll be £££ sir" Well can I have the old 1/s back then? (aged 16 & naive as fook) "No sorry it snapped when we removed it". Oh OK then, thanks  **Grrrrrr that won't ever happen again** & it hasn't. |
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When I first started using my piston, I tried running it in gently. If the piston goes up and down too fast at first it won't last very long. After the piston's been used several times it starts to get more stable and eventually can be used at higher speeds for increased periods of time without blowing.
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