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skithepowder
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 28 May 2010    Post subject: You have £1000, new to biking, what sportsbike? Reply with quote

Say that you have £1000, you're new to biking, you've just passed your test, did direct access so can ride any bike now unrestricted, and you want a sportsbike that is going to teach you the basics of riding and brush up your skills without being dangerous for a first time biker. What are the options you'd consider?
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 28 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This:
https://www.newlaunches.com/entry_images/0408/29/Jet-Powered-Motorcycle2.jpg

Or seriously having no idea about motorcycles probably a Hornet as they are rather nice..
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 28 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're rare, but if you can find yourself a good condition Suzuki RGV 250, they are bloody AMAZING bikes.

https://www.sportbikez.net/bikepics/109/medium/1091296513.jpg
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 28 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

an Old CBR600
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PostPosted: 07:13 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you get it'll be old, CBR600 a good choice but I would have to say that of course, just be careful and be prepared to spend some money to make sure it's right. Don't buy anything unless you're sure you can afford to run it right for that reason I'd stick with the CBR, loads sold so second hand parts ought not to be a problem, I have a feeling you'd find new parts pricey, good luck!
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you could up your budget by £500 to £1000 you would get a lot more choice
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to gather information on a few bikes and then check out how much the insurance could be.

The cost of insurance could make all the difference to what you can afford to buy.
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't get a full-on sports bike.

I'd get either a GPZ500s or a CB500.

Several reasons. One is that they'll go fast enough for the time being. Both will do a little over 120mph which is fast enough for any circumstances really.

You are also clearly on a budget. These will be cheaper to run, maintain and insure.

For £1000 you'll get a reasonably tidy one with moderate mileage on it. You'd get a higher mileage, fairly tatty sportsbike for the same amount. What you tend to find is that this will reflect the state of repair of the bike. You might find that £1000 CBR with 50k miles on the clock actually needs three new discs, a chain and sprockets and a set of tyres which suddenly turns it into a £1700 bike.

I might suggest a GSXF600 as being a bike that goes for around that budget in fairly good condition too. That would be if I didn't hate suzukis. They also aren't pretty.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I were new to biking then I would be looking for something I didn't mind dropping, having a few minor spills on...something that was forgiving and possibly a bit tatty, but sturdy and reliable. Not a sportsbike. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in the situation when I did my Das. I wanted a half decent 600cc fully faired sports bike, but with cheap insurance and I only had £700 to spend.

I looked at CBR's, for £700 it was all shit and very high miles, all around the early ninties age.

gsxr's and zx's were all to expensive

Thundercats seem to still be making half decent money and fzr's seemed to dated and expensive to insure.

I also looked at zzr's, gsxf's and fully faired SV's, none of these floated my boat and they are all good "first big bikes" so prices are high unless you get a shitter.

There are a few decent 500cc bikes around for decent money too, but they all seemed bland and boring. I only wanted a bike for some weekend fun not for going to work on or doing high miles.


So after looked at the above you're more than likley thinking I've pretty much ruled out most fully faired il4 600's.

But then I found a little gem

A Suzuki RF600r.
It was a 95 plate with 30K on the clock, in fairly decent nick all for £630 with a new MOT and a few months tax. Insurance was nice and cheap to. 23yrs old, licence held for 5 minutes, no NCD and 3 points, £170 TPO.


The RF was a very nice bike with an easy riding postion and good weather protection. Be a sports tourer rather than a full blow sports bike it was very forgiving in the corners. The engines a built proof and the brakes were very good compared to the wifes SV I had been riding for a month before and the little glove box thing is well handy for keeping your fags, phone and wallet in.



Sorry about the long post, just thought I'd explain my budget bike choice. When I was looking for my current bike I saw a few RF's for under a grand on bike trader. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

gsxr 600.
enough said

my srad cost me 900 and needed nothing for an MOT
some cunt i know bought one for 850 ish and needed a little work but thats it.
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boundy
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

up-in-3rd wrote:
gsxr 600.
enough said

my srad cost me 900 and needed nothing for an MOT
some cunt i know bought one for 850 ish and needed a little work but thats it.


how old was yours mate?
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much power does an old GSXR600 have? Not too much for a beginner? Is a new rider (I'm 23) not gonna get hammered on the insurance on a 600cc sportsbike?

Cheers for the replies, I'll definitely have a look into the RF boundy.
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

no idea on power. about 90-95bhp?
mine was a 1997, the said cunts bike is also a 1997.

insurance for me was £500 TPFT at 18 with 1 years NCB

240 the following year.
then i thought fuckit and bought an R6. a real bike.
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 29 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also boundy, who did you get your insurance with for £170 on it?
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boundy
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 30 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

170 was with churchill with my wife with on the policy, you also get riding other bikes. Just had my renewal through, its now 168.10 with 1yr ncd on my 99 gsxr600, strange thing is it would of been cheaper on a gsxr750
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 30 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi i'm new to bikes too haven't completed licence yet, I'm 36 so insurance quotes on a few bikes don't seem too bad.
Not sure what bike to start looking for is the general opinion a CBR ?
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 30 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^ As I say to most people, look around this forum, there are tonnes of 'what bike next threads', write down the list of bikes you have seen listed, go onto google images, look at all the bikes. Cross off your list the ones you don't like.

Then go out to a few bike shops and look at the ones you do like, and if possible go for a test ride, (if able) if not, at least sit on the bike and get a feel for it - distance from seat to footpeg, how long the reach to handle bar is, that sort of thing...

Then make an informed decision based on what suits YOU.
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 01 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

up-in-3rd wrote:
no idea on power. about 90-95bhp?
mine was a 1997, the said cunts bike is also a 1997.

insurance for me was £500 TPFT at 18 with 1 years NCB

240 the following year.
then i thought fuckit and bought an R6. a real bike.


If you were 18, then you can NOT have had a full unrestricted licence and the bike SHOULD have been restricted to 33bhp....

Makes a bit of difference on the insurance that does.....

Pointless restricting a 100bhp bike to 1/3 its specified power, to wear out soft sticky sports tyres with all the wiegt your lugging about you dont need to contain all the horse-power you have dialed out to be legal......

Of course if you accidentally 'loose' the restrictions, THEN it makes sense, but no matter how cheap or expensive your insurance, its pretty worthless, becouse the bike your riding with more than 33bhp ent the bike on the ins cert.....

& people get sent to prison for driving without insurance, you know....

JUST a little idea to consider....

Sports-bikes post test?

Personally I am not a spoprtsbike fan. On the track, they make a lot of sense, but anywhere else, they are just a pain in the arse, and the wrists, and the kneck, and an expensive way to wear out natural rubber reserves.

On the road, for all the fun of riding them, almost ANYTHING over 125cc has far more performance than any sane rider can put to real use, and few have the ability the bike does even on the track.

And on the road the riding possition, if it doesn't torture you, the visability from the racer crouch will... dont matter HOW fast the thing sare, if you have to get out the saddle and hold the bike up to look round a corer to see if you can pull out of a junction!

But, if thats the style that floats your boat and are happy to live with the compromises, so be it, who am I to judge....

I'll just ride round the outside of you on my old 'nail' of a street bike when you 'flop' into a 70mph corner at 30, trying to get your knee down like your favourite track hero!

As mntioned, the twins make a good mount, GPZ,500s, ER5, CB500...ish!

But I'd point you at an SV650.

Nice tidy bike, sporty, rather than pure-sports, reasonable riding possition, a good bike to give you confidence while you are still learning the ropes, but sporty enough to be exiting and meet your ideas of style....

BIT over budget, but worth the little extra, and you will get it back, if not in resale, at least in the lower running costs.

Alternatively, if that grand is your MAX money, then look at old Honda NTV 650's. Much like the SV, if a little more staid, but with the benefit of a shaft drive for low maintenence. Not AS sharp styled as the SV, but a LOT more interesting to ride than the CB500, and they DO handle nicely, the chassis is basically the old VF400 frame, but with slightly soggier suspension, and they fetch very sensible money. £600-£700 gets you a useful one, though people do tend to hang on to them.

They tend to get as a 'first' big bike, but hand on to them after they get something more sporty or bigger, becouse of the low maintenence, low running costs and commuter-usefulness, as something to get to and from work and or ride through the winter.
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