How secure is my bike?

nick_harris · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 27 May 2010 Karma :

Not really something i'm worried about, would just like to know; but i've got a ybr125 [2010 plates Razz

] and was just curious as to how secure the bike actually is when i leave it alone. It's nice and safe at home, but say i pop round a mates with the bike outside is the steering lock really enough to stop someone pinching it? Confused

Mr_Cynical · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Karma :

Probably not...

I'd invest in a least a decent disc lock, just to be on the safe side. Maybe a chain too..
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nick_harris · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 27 May 2010 Karma :

I've got a chain which i'm going to need to start using from the sounds of it!
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Mr_Cynical · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Karma :

I'd say it's worth using, if only for peace of mind!
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strag · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Karma :

The steering lock is useless, can be snapped in seconds. The bike could also be lifted into a van in no time unless it is chained to something.
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crowe · Trackday Trickster Joined: 03 Feb 2009 Karma :

Get a chain, preferably as big as you can store under your seat (so you don't get lazy and forget to take it with you).

Chain it to something and if possible chain it to something high up (so bolt cuttings can't use the road as leverage).

I try and chain it around the wheels/forks until its 'tight' agains a post/fence/barrier.

I also found a waterproof cover stopped chav kids sitting on the bike too.

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FURBAR · Banned Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Karma :

Get an Almax series 3 chain, if you want a safe bike and big muscles ... and if you want to break your back, get a series 4 .... Laughing

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skatefreak · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Karma :

Yeah, problem with 125's are they can be lifted into vans (video floating around where an ER got lifted!), so i'd say a disk lock and chain would deffinatly be required.

Its a sad testemant to life but i guess you have to accept that if they want your bike then they will take it and you just have to make it as risky (noisy/awkward) as possible Neutral

Damn scum out there, pisses me right off *sighs*...

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Clanger · Stirrer Joined: 27 May 2004 Karma :

Tell you what, post your address and we'll send the boys round and let you know... Wink

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Ingah · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Apr 2009 Karma :

Let me put this bluntly:

You have, what, £1.5K+? of machine. That is probably worth more when sold in individual parts. In a country where a fair amount of people are out of work/career thieves, and an undercurrent of scum seem to be festering (times aren't great in the UK). To make things worse, the bike weighs, 140kg? at the most (2 men can easily lift the rear of an even heavier sportsbike and wheel it along), and people largely ignore anything that isn't in their own little world/bubble.

Your bike is easy pickings.

The good news is that you've recognised that it's vulnerable before it's too late, so.

Some threads to read, some good advice contained within (including plenty of my opinion):
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=190540
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=196132
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=191496
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=191654

Apologies for the repetition (you'll probably note a pattern in my responses - i can assure you i'm not afflicated with any company though).
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Paulington · World Chat Champion Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Karma :

I have an SV650S.

If I leave it somewhere other than my house overnight/for a long period of time, I have:

An alarm.
Immobiliser.
Disc lock.
Sprocket lock. (A massive padlock that goes through the holes of the sprocket + carrier.)
Steering lock.

To be fair, if they can nick it, they can have it. Thumbs Up

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Kal · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Karma :

It's not, I live in a fairly nice area now and some bastard actually cut the locks to have a look in my garage a couple of months ago.

Fortunately, all the bikes are stripped down and they decided it was more trouble than it was worth.

My CG was stolen from right outside my frontdoor where I used to live, and that was in the space of an hour.

There was a thread on here I read the other day, a girl who has had two stolen from her house.

So yeah, your bike isnt secure at all. Even at home.
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neil. · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Karma :

At the end of the day you will never stop the most determient miscreant, but you will deter most of the would-be have-a-go-er's, and slow down anyone else who chooses to attempt a theft. Suprised nobody mentioned a disc lock alarm, as you'd hear it the moment someone jogged your bike. They can be prone to false alarms though, but I've never personally had mine go off by itself. Thumbs Up

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nick_harris · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 27 May 2010 Karma :

Thanks for all the posts, and apologies for my late reply (been busy riding Very Happy

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From the sounds of it the only way to really have a secure bike would be to hide it in a bunker surrounded by guard dogs and the such Confused

I think it'll be a case of buying as much security as i can afford/fit on my bike Shocked

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Ingah · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Apr 2009 Karma :

I don't think you read those threads?

Because if you did, you'd probably be looking at an Almax series 3 chain and alarmed disc lock (the reason i didn't mention the alarmed disc lock was because i saw it mentioned on those linked threads) - probably the best combination as far as security, (relative) convenience, and reliability (if your disc lock alarm goes haywire, at least you're not stranded like with some dedicated bike alarms).
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Notj7 · Brolly Dolly Joined: 24 Aug 2008 Karma :

You can also get some sort of GPS thing put in too if you're that bothered about it. So if it does get nicked, you can trace it. RFID chip or something, I'm not sure?

FURBAR · Banned Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Karma :

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FURBAR · Banned Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Karma :

Yes, i have an almax series 3 - 2 metre and squire padlock .... i have a cheopo chain and lock that looks better than it is that i use for when i'm 2 mins max away from bike, i got the kruger pack thrown in too,

A good company who apparently despite claims are better than pragmas, who claim to be equal to Almax ..

Almax btw is alex and max who set up the company nearon ten years ago ...

It's funny/ironic that they had a crate load of chains nicked recently ... Smile

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Askura · Nova Slayer Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Karma :

Get a decent chain and chain it to something solid. DO THIS EVERY TIME YOU PARK.

I've had my bike/s stolen several times. I've had disc locks, chains etc and it's still been pinched. 125s are very popular with thieves because anyone can ride them after doing a cbt. I tended to keep the chain wrapped and locked over the pillion bars. That way it was always with my bike.
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FURBAR · Banned Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Karma :

Finally figured out the chain and lock, with 2m helps ... round solid object and or anchor, through back wheel, then thread almax chain, the remainder of the chain link is big enough to go through the frame traingle, before locking with squire .... happy now i've figured it out, not that it was rocket science .... being third party insurance makes one Very mindfull of losing your ride .... Thumbs Up

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FURBAR · Banned Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Karma :

Back of lorry it was robbed off, chains were on the way to a place to do a final treatment ... did not ask how secure the chains were .... Laughing

I will say this, i use the allmax series 3 ... the four series would be good for at home or away on tracks days etc ....

I also have the tailpack as stated, my impulsive brother says it's to big and unworkable, but after a week, you get used to it, and learn the best methods to handle and secure, not only the chain, but the bike aswell ... as i thought ... the 1.5 m chain IMO ... would make it much more dificult to secure to lamposts etc ...

So peeps .. if your going for almax, then series 3 at 2 m with the tailpack is recomended .. Thumbs Up

... squire lovked preferred, seen it selling for 100 quid in many places ....
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