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everyreasonto
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 02 Jun 2010    Post subject: Sleeping gear Reply with quote

Hi guys, just wanted your opinion on this: 'Camp Ready' Bed

I'll be using it every other month for long weekend camps, I though combining the two would possible save some space?
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 02 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah false economy, and invariably when your sleeping bag stinks for some reason you won't be able to wash it easily.

Airbeds are also kind of bouncy, you don't really need to save space on a bike anyway, unlike me where I slept on my clothes in Siberia.

Get thee one of those £20 thermarests they pack up to the size of a flask and a 2-3 season bag not much bigger.
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 02 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always think things like this are a bit of a gimmick, and i wouldn't expect the airbed or the sleeping bag to be very good quality. You can get airbeds for about a tenner and you could get a far better sleeping bag than the one thats attatched to this Argos all in one bed, which is also only a 300 gsm which is summer use only.
I bet the packsize is big also.
I do actually prefer sleeping on an airbed than a self inflating mat, but if an airbed punctures, as they do easily, then you are sleeping on the ground. A self inflating mat will still give you some comfort even if it punctures.
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Nah false economy, and invariably when your sleeping bag stinks for some reason you won't be able to wash it easily.

Airbeds are also kind of bouncy, you don't really need to save space on a bike anyway, unlike me where I slept on my clothes in Siberia.

Get thee one of those £20 thermarests they pack up to the size of a flask and a 2-3 season bag not much bigger.


I've never seen Thermarests for £20.... but i'd like to know where to get them for that.
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PostPosted: 03:08 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

BanditJeff wrote:
I've never seen Thermarests for £20.... but i'd like to know where to get them for that.


https://www.johnscross.co.uk/products.php?product=Gelert-X%252dtreme-Lite-Self-Inflating-Mat-Bed-

Used one, much prefer it to an airbed as your body heat warms it up really quickly, quick to inflate and small to pack.
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PostPosted: 08:28 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for thermarest.

Get a 3/4 size one to save even more space (who really needs a cushion for the feet?!)
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PostPosted: 09:07 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
BanditJeff wrote:
I've never seen Thermarests for £20.... but i'd like to know where to get them for that.


https://www.johnscross.co.uk/products.php?product=Gelert-X%252dtreme-Lite-Self-Inflating-Mat-Bed-

Used one, much prefer it to an airbed as your body heat warms it up really quickly, quick to inflate and small to pack.


That isnt a Thermarest.... its a Gelert.
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's exactly the same in all but name Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 04 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be wary of cheap airbeds. Thermarest sounds like a better option.
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 04 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
It's exactly the same in all but name Rolling Eyes


And based on past experience of all Gelert "budget kit" ... longevity and build quality Rolling Eyes

Also stay away from Exped mats, non-slip surfaces and quick drying,great build quality apart from the valves. Had two fail on me in rapid succession and Exped warranty is worth jack, seems to be if you have used the product, it becomes void!
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 04 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
It's exactly the same in all but name Rolling Eyes


Umm.... No it isn't.
Genuine Thermarest self inflate mats are far superior in build quality than Gelert mats. They are also more comfortable, and size for size compared to other self inflate mats, they are lighter and pack smaller.
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 04 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just going to take this moment to plug Alpkit's range of mats. Cheaper than thermarest, more bomb proof than Gelert.

And I'm not even on commission!
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 04 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

multijoy wrote:
I'm just going to take this moment to plug Alpkit's range of mats. Cheaper than thermarest, more bomb proof than Gelert.

And I'm not even on commission!


Alpkit's stuff is usually very good, dont know about these new mats as they've only been out a few weeks, so too early to get reviews. But if they are as good as their previous Airic mats then they are worth buying.
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 04 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

multijoy wrote:
I'm just going to take this moment to plug Alpkit's range of mats. Cheaper than thermarest, more bomb proof than Gelert.

And I'm not even on commission!


I quite like the look of the Little Kippa. I know it's designed for kids but I'm not massive, the price seems decent and it's got quite a small pack size.
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 04 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aldi have got a thermarest type bed roll for £12.99 available from thursday

https://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/special_buys3_14392.htm

I bought one very similar from netto a few years back for £10 and its been fine.
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 04 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for input fellas. Think I'm gonna get a thermarest one when I've got a bit more cash spare. I'm gonna go and get one of those aldi specials tomorrow though, should do for the GP!
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 04 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for alpkit - I have a 'fat airic', now replaced by the 'dozer'. While bigger than others, it can still pack fairly small. I strap it on to the outside of the bike in a waterproof bag - and it's by far the most comfortable camping may I've used.
I use mine inside my big agnes sleeping bag - it slips inside a special 'pocket' so you can't roll off it.
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 04 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
Aldi have got a thermarest type bed roll for £12.99 available from thursday

https://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/special_buys3_14392.htm

I bought one very similar from netto a few years back for £10 and its been fine.


I looked into this last time around (about a month ago) and rolled up it's massive and far bigger than my little 1cm mat which is comfy enough. 5cm is overkill in my opinion and totally unnecessary.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 04 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah mine is a bit bulky, i wouldnt mind a smaller one.

Very comfy though.

Salty off here had a 3/4 gelrt one that looked good.

I use mine a bit like a 3/4 in that i dont have the bottom of the mat by my feet, but by my bum.

I then roll up the top bit by my head as a pillow.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 05 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about the VANGO self inflating mats, i would assume them to be good quality judging by their tents...?

Cheap on ebay atm. Surprised
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hi-jack the thread, but has anyone tired out the Hi Gear Ultralite 3/4 mat that Go Outdoors sell?

Clicky

Tempted to get one. About the same size as the equivalent Vango rolled out and packed, but cheaper and with an extra 1.5cm of thickness.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks identical to the Gelert X-treme mat just rebranded. I think they're fine but others seem to disagree.
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
That looks identical to the Gelert X-treme mat just rebranded. I think they're fine but others seem to disagree.


Only difference is the Gelert is a full size mat so more similar to the full size Hi Gear item.

Clicky

Actually looking at the spec, clearly they are exactly the same mat.

The 3/4 mat from Gelert is exactly the same as the Hi Gear but as the Hi Gear mats are exclusive to Go Outdoors, I just found the Gelert mat from Amazon at £18.50. In a funny way, you've been helpful Thumbs Up Karma

The Gelerts are clearly quite popular as they are out of stock at a lot of places.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 10 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought the Gelert 3/4. Got one for £22 delivered off eBay. Ordered yesterday and arrived today. I'll write a review on it tomorrow after I sleep on it tonight Thumbs Up I'm very pleased from the first impressions.
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that's crap. It bloody leaks Mad Rolling Eyes
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