Looking to the future, on from a 125

[tk338]

Hey

I don't post here often, I lurk, a lot, but post, no. I ride a ybr 125 bought it from a dealer just over a month ago have covered my 600 miles and had it serviced. Life is good!

The dealer i took it too, where I bought her and subsequently got her serviced, is big, I mean deals in maybe 5 or 6 brands of new bikes, plus a couple used, walking through my eyes wandered over bikes, mainly R1's if I'm honest, but then turned round to a cbr 600. Love it first sight . Now I know I'm new to biking and all, but I do like to have somewhere I'm aiming, I think I'm getting on ok with riding so far and I am really enjoying it, so would it be unreasonable to be looking to getting maybe a 33bhp restricted cbr600 in a year and a half-sos time? Or would that be mind blowing-ly stupid?

I know I'd need to do my test etc, I'm 19 at the moment and understand the risks, in one way I could easily just think nope ad move on, but that cbr was quite something, if not after a year and a half what sort of time frame should I be looking at?

Finally finally I do also understand you can't put a number on it and say ok well after 1 year 3 months you'll be ready, but I'm thinking more power-wise going from a 125 too 600 sports, is it sensible?

Right now even if I was offered I would refuse to ride anything bigger than a 125 for the sole reason I know my bike would seem like the slowest thing on earth and I will have it for another year at least so I don't want to ruin that.

Aahh well thanks a lot guys for reading anyways!

[slyrob]

do it. that is all
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I did my DAS course about 20 months ago so my entry into biking was a bit different, but I went straight for a middle-weight 600, an SV650. I felt that it was the smartest choice at the time considering I needed it to do everything from commuting to touring, and eventually track days. It was also cheap to run and insure and the V-twin grunt suited the way I rode it.

My planned progression, had I not written off my car , was going to be a 675 Daytona later this year, as now I feel comfortable riding the bike and would be happy to do it with a bit more power.

I would say get a 600 middle-weight and have that restricted. I've heard good things about restricted SV's, apparently having that amount of low down torque pretty much negates the power restriction up to about 80-90mph. The other thing is the insurance cost for your age, but depending on your circumstances that may not be an issue.

What may be an idea is waiting til the power restriction comes off to get the CBR so you can enjoy it in all its glory (for 'glory' read POWER!). I may be talking rubbish but its something to think about.

[N cee thirty]

well i rode a 50 for about 6 months,bought a 125 3 months ago and hopefully doing my test soon as possible to commute on a bigger bike

up to you what you need your bike for tbh
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[Paxovasa]

A restricted CBR600F would be good, but a restricted CBR600RR would not be a good idea (IMHO)
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[crowe]

I rode my 125 for a year, clocked a few thousand miles on it.

I rode my er5 restricted (33bhp) for about 6 months and covered another couple of thousand miles.

I've now ridden my er5 derestricted (50bhp) for a year despite my official restriction ending in 6 months time.

I think a restricted 600F is a good idea and, when you feel confident, you can derestrict it. Just get the miles in and build up your experience and i think you will be fine.

Crowe




ps if your a copper reading then the above is all lies
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[Kal]

[Teflon-Mike]

A CBR600 is a 100bhp bike, and has brakes susp[ension, chassis and tyres of the standard to handle that kind of power.

On a 'Restricted' licence, you can only LEGALLY have 33bhp...

That means you buy a CBR6 and you will be strangling it to 1/3 of its pottential.

Normal way of restricting is to bung a 'choke' behind the carburettor so that it wont flow enough air to make more than 33bhp.

That is like riding with the throttle 1/3 open.... ONLY you can open the throttle fully..... so it screws the carburation up.

Fine... you want a VBR, you want a 'cert' for your insurance co to say you can ride it..... and after obtaining such you chuck the restritors away.....

IMMEDIETLY you are riding a motorcycle you are not qualified to ride. so you get done for that. And IMMEDIETLY you have invalidated your insurance.... so you get MEGA done for that too.

Not REALLY worth the risk, to be honest.

And the insurance companies are cute, they DO check, and you CANT really say 'sorry, they must have just, err 'fallen off'... wont wash.

And if they get REALLY sniffy they'll do you for insurance fraud on top of all else!

People DO do it, and SOME 'get-away' with it...... fine, IF you accept the risks, your call, but if so why even bother taking your test?

And, just as a poit of note; becouse SO many people run restricted-de, on bikes like that, and particularly on CBR's for some reason....

SO many new-riders unsurprisingly crash the darn things......

Means that bikes like that, restricted or not get hammeres on the insurance whether you run them legit or not....

And thats not the ONLY wasted cost you'll face JUST for the cudos of having a CBR.

As said, they carry a lot of weight to harness all that horse-power you dont have.

That makes them less manageable than bikes designed to only have 33ish bhp.

And the tyres fitted are sticky sports tyres in a big size, and and and, getting the idea?

You are basically paying a HECK of a lot of money for parts and maintenence on a super-sports middle-weight and NOT using it.

If you're ritch enough, and its worth it to you, go for it....

But if you AREN'T loaded, as mentioned, something like an SV600 or an ER5 is FAR less strangled by restrictions, and an awful lot cheaper to run, and you WILL be able to use MOST of the performance it has to offer.

Restricted CBR6, WILL just frustrate. As you will just KNOW it has more to offer, and YOU cant (or shouldn't) use it.

Personally I thik that the 33bhp limit was a daft idea from teh off, as was the 50 laws and the 125 laws, becouse the whole idea of starting small and working your way up, simply teaches you how to ride everything with the taps wide open, until you are on a bike so big, that riding like that is a ticket to desaster......

But unfortunately THAT is what we have been stuck with, so, make the best of it.

Get something 'boring' for the 2 years of your probation, play the game, save some money, and when you can do it properly, THEN go look for something like a CBR or R1... or whatever takes your fancy when the time comes.... who knows, you may have been converted to touring bikes and want a gold-wing or something!

You never know how your tastes will change as your interest develops.

Right now, though, just worry about getting phase 1, and your full licence under your belt.

That little Yam, with 600 miles under your belt aint much, and you know, even when you have passed your test, its a very useful little bike..... very cheap to run, enough performance to be interesting, and well, lets face it with depreciation, HP charges and all that, might be worth running that for a year or so of your probation, get some miles on it, and get the value for what you've paid out on it....

DONT RUSH.... sure way to hurt yourself on a motorbike, you know!