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allyleventhal
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 05 Jun 2010    Post subject: Insurance - Mechanical devices Reply with quote

Hi, ive got down on my insurance for my sv650 that i have an oxford monster lock. When they sent me the mechanical security declaration form to sign, i noticed on it that it said they can request sight of a receipt at any time? As i dont have the receipt for the lock, my question is if my bike did get stolen and the lock with it, would they try and avoid payout by that fact that i have no receipt to prove i actually have the lock? Cheers Smile
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 05 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't say what they would do but insurers like to wriggle out of paying when possible. Plenty of people do not keep receipts (or not for long) so them being able to ask to see it at any time is bollox. Take a pic of the lock on the bike (proves you have a lock!) and a close-up pic showing the lock's model number or serial number if you can.
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 05 Jun 2010    Post subject: Re: Insurance - Mechanical devices Reply with quote

allyleventhal wrote:
Hi, ive got down on my insurance for my sv650 that i have an oxford monster lock. When they sent me the mechanical security declaration form to sign, i noticed on it that it said they can request sight of a receipt at any time? As i dont have the receipt for the lock, my question is if my bike did get stolen and the lock with it, would they try and avoid payout by that fact that i have no receipt to prove i actually have the lock? Cheers Smile


Strange one that - if you've signed the declaration form I don't see how they could argue. A receipt doesn't prove you had it fitted at the time of any theft after all.

I would take some photos of the bike with the lock fitted, along with the declaration form and a copy of the newspaper for that day too if you can Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 05 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm,
But surly a picutre of the bike with a lock on could just be yr mates lock Neutral
Ropey one this,
to be perfectly honest i recon a recipt for the item would make sense but at the end of the day its getting pretty damn finicky Neutral
They'll try anything i guess *shrugs*

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PostPosted: 19:33 - 05 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it actually make that much difference on insurance having that or a particular lock?
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 05 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

skatefreak wrote:
Hmmm,
But surly a picutre of the bike with a lock on could just be yr mates lock Neutral
Ropey one this,
to be perfectly honest i recon a recipt for the item would make sense but at the end of the day its getting pretty damn finicky Neutral
They'll try anything i guess *shrugs*

-Jvr


The pic of the lock being your mates could so easily apply to the receipt being your mates too though, and neither would guarantee that the lock was fitted to the bike if it were to be stolen.
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 05 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you paied cash granted.
Both very valid points.

Wonder when these companies are going to cut some slack, it'll get to the point where there wont be any point having anything more comprehensive than TPO cuz they might just come up with a get out for everything eventually...

Neutral

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PostPosted: 20:38 - 05 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

skatefreak wrote:

Wonder when these companies are going to cut some slack, it'll get to the point where there wont be any point having anything more comprehensive than TPO cuz they might just come up with a get out for everything eventually...


Having just TPO offered would kill the insurance companies, everybody would be up in arms having to pay over the odds for something which is a legal necessity and yet the insurance companies would be making big profits on.
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 05 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

skatefreak wrote:
Hmmm,
But surly a picutre of the bike with a lock on could just be yr mates lock Neutral
-Jvr


That's exactly my point. It no more proves that the stolen bike had a lock on it than a copy of the receipt does.
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PostPosted: 03:18 - 06 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Careful imo.

Ts&Cs, a contract. You're agreeing to it in it's entireity.

Doesn't mean it's allowed/legal for them to do it, but insurers are not fun to argue the toss with when they're holding on to money rightfully and morally yours. Ask a 3rd party like the FSA?
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 06 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

slightly off topic, but if your bike was stolen from outside your house WITHOUT that lock on, even though you've told them that you use it, would they pay out?
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 06 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acemastr wrote:
slightly off topic, but if your bike was stolen from outside your house WITHOUT that lock on, even though you've told them that you use it, would they pay out?


No. As you stipulated that you would use a chain and padlock (you could tell them it was stolen with the lock attached) they would find it difficult to prove that it wasn't. Wink
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 06 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally contact the Ins co and ask them.....

If you tell them that you no longer have the reciept, then they will be able to advise you.
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