Some ****ers just tried to nick my bike!!!! need some advice

[EvoUK]

Hi guys,

Literally a couple of hours ago some little ******** tried to nick my 2010 YZF125 outside my house.

Now I've got a Datatool System Red on it, which the alarm was screaming like nuts and then wankers only took off on their peds once me and a few others got out the door.

In the 30seconds that the alarm went off, they managed to knock out the ignition barrel and that in turn unlocked the wheel lock.

In anycase a couple of points I need clarification on;
Firstly I'm guessing they were planning on hot-wiring the bike..
1) would the datatool immobiliser have made any difference to them trying to nick the bike?
2) is the special chip thing in key any actual use?


Also does anyone know roughly how much a new barrel is going to cost me? I'm assuming that will also involve new keys?

Bike presently is back in its proper secure location; chain down with my anchor and almax 4.

[stinkwheel]

With a properly fitted immobiliser, there is no way they could have started it without rewiring half the bike. Not that this is beyond them, I've had a bike stolen and a 12-lead immobiliser bypassed, it would take more than a few minutes though. They'd have to take it somewhere to work on it.

This may be what they were up to.

If it is an aftermarket immobiliser, you may find you just need a new ignition barrel, possibly a new microchip antenna for around the switch too if they've rived it off.

Check it in the morning. If they used brute-force to break the steering lock, there may be other damage such as bent bars, cracked switchgear or a damaged steering stem. I never use a steering lock for this exact reason.
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[Frost]

They will try and fuck up the lock in the hope of starting it only if they think they can ride it away. Otherwise they will pick it up and put it in a van to do the electrics later. The only real solution is to chain the bike to something solid with a fat hard chain. Then they won't try to hot wire it if they know they can't move it anywhere.

[st3v3]

If they didn't damage the barrel then leave it be. No point replacing it to have it csost again if they retry.

I'd have thought the immobiliser on the alarm would work, if you're usure try tampering yousrself before trusting it out and about.

Report this to the police, more evidence incase of a theft is useful.

Get it locked by chain through frame to something solid. a plank of wood that's part of your shed isn't solid..... I'd be staying up the next few nights awaiting the little bastards return......
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[Mister James]

Any CCTV covering the exit/entrance to your road, or on the roads nearby? If so, pop in and ask them to bash out a copy for the rough time you saw the scrotes.

Did you get a good look at any of them (age, build, height, sex, race, clothing), or their 'peds (make, colour, reg plates, etc?).

Is your bike indoors after the incident? If so, any finger prints they've left could have been preserved - although if they're riding they may well have been wearing gloves. Even tool marks can be assessed by SOCO and matched to the tools that made them.

I'd be inclined to report the matter even if none of the above applies; as someone says, it's all good evidence for your insurance company and/or Old Bill if the scumbags come back for another pop.

Looks like a clear case of attempted theft of a motor vehicle - MV crime is usually a priority crime and most OCU's will have an MV team who will almost certainly be able to guess who the culprits are anyway!

If nothing else, it's always worth reporting crime because it stops senior plod and politicians lying about how crime is going down - when we all know it's cos they are juggling figures and people are losing faith and just not bothering to report.
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[EvoUK]

Thanks for the replies guys.

- Reported the bike in yesterday.

- They managed to take away the entire ignition barrel. so currently bike is unrideable. Dont know what other damage has happened to the bike. Alarm still seems to activate.

- Dont think they used brute force to remove the barrel, seems like they removed it quite easily.

- Managed to get a look at them, young white guys. Even better was that one of my neighbours managed to get most of their licence plates.

Just have to wait and see what the police say now, got a call last night they in the same area a couple of peds of similar description went into a no entry road, so they said they were going to stop and check them.

Insurance haven't been much use as its 3rd party fire and theft.. and excess they are quoting me is £400! even thru I've held my licence for 2 years and no claims at all! In the mean time there sending someone round to pick up bike and assess damage..

[27cows]

The cops are worse than useless. The ONLY way to deter scum like this is to mete out proper justice to them. Once two or three of the vermin are given vicious, merciless beatings, the rest soon get the message and move on to easier pickings in a different area.

Not suggesting you do this, but it's the only thing that works. These shitbags know there's cock all the law can do even if it catches up with them. Several large blokes with bats and coshes, on the other hand...
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[EvoUK]

your words of wisdom are appreciated.
I'm def going to f**k em up the next time I see them!!

[Bubbs]

[pa_broon74]

[The999Kid]

[Mister James]

[Mister James]

[FURBAR]

Is your almax series four for at home use only ... ??
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[DrDonnyBrago]

[Gazdaman]

I would say local idiots on 'peds would struggle to steal a modern bike with an immobilizer.

I'm guessing they were planning on a simple straightforward hotwire and ride away.

You should make sure your bike is locked to something, I don't know if it was or not, I'm guessing it wasn't a particularly good quality lock in order for them to remove it so easily.

Gaz

[Mister James]

Blah blah blah blah it's a police state/think of the children/political correctness gone mad/I'm a stranger in my own country/it's a government conspiracy etc.

Get over yourself - and more importantly, get over the Daily Mail's editorial.

I wonder what proportion of police officers have actually stuck someone on for speeding? I'll bet it's a tiny fraction.

Traffic officers who are actually equipped to do you for speeding make up a minute percentage of the total officer numbers. They also have little or nothing to do with secondary investigation of minor crimes - which is what we are discussing here. The clue is in their job title.

24/7 response teams and the CID/case progression PC's who would deal with bike thieves have got little or nothing to do with issuing speeding tickets. The clue is in their job titles as well.

If you break the speed limit you take the risk of getting caught, especially when you're stupid enough to do it in front of Old Bill. If they're running to a more urgent incident (like 'suspects on premises, stealing EvoUK's bike') they'll ignore you, and you get away with it. If they're bimbling about on patrol, they'll catch you and do you.

Them's the breaks, you know it will happen, it's the law, it gets enforced where possible.

If you don't like it, just remember that it's the general public who elect the civilian government who legislate and tell the police what the law is.

That would be you.

Perhaps if less 'law abiding' members of the public bought hooky goods down the pub from thieves, burglars and junkies, we'd see less acquisitive crime. Funny how it's 'wink wink nudge nudge' until it's their house that gets screwed.
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[superstacker]

Mister James, you do speak a lot of sense.

[superstacker]

Mister James, you do speak a lot of sense.

[yuri2085]

Everything Mister James says is normally quite sensible.
Two things popped out at me in my quick scan of his last posy. You can't always know if you are 'speeding in front of the old Bill' with them hiding in slip roads (with little or no visibility as you are coming in the direction which you be travelling), and increasingly well camouflaged unmarked cars.

Also I am glad you qualified the 'thems the rules' argument with pointing out we are in a democracy, but it still doesn't quite stand up. Democracy is fuelled by knee jerk reactions to scared mums and exploitative media representatives; which I imagine you agree can help push logic and reason aside in decision making processes.

[Mister James]

[Moonie]

Everybody is acting like these kids on peds are something from Gone in 60 Seconds

The likelyhood is they were bored, opportunistic scrotes looking for a field bike to make their mates jealous with. When someone tried to nick the RF, it dissapeared and was then found in a park after some kids had tried to hotwire it. They clearly had no idea what they were doing, they'd dragged it half a mile with the steering lock on

Come to think of it the police only ever found it because they were attending to a case of a tramp jumping out of the bushes and wanking at people at 6:30 the next morning
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[Mister James]

Gotta love those wanking tramps - they provide a public service, you'd miss them if they were gone! :Wink:
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[R6jonny]

When we do speed enforcement we stand by the road wearing our white hats and yellow jackets. If you cant see us then you really shouldnt be exceeding the speed limit.

If you are paying attention and scanning the road in the distance we are fairly easy to spot and you will be able to slow down in time.

It really is quite worrying how late people see us, i have seen plenty of drivers hit the brakes about 30 feet away on a dead straight road in the middle of the day..
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[Askura]

As the others have said, get it chained to something solid. In conjunction with your alarm/immobilizer you'd be fairly sorted. That isn't fool proof as even doing that I've had some scrotes steal my bike.

Giving them a firm beating isn't that great an idea. Just get them reported to the police. One of my mates dad did the whole "Teach them what for!" and had his windows bricked and his car (And the neighbours car) slashed and smashed. It only takes a few moments with a few lads to do that late at night.

A good deterrent is if you print out and laminate on A4 "CCTV OPERATING - TRESPASSERS WILL BE PROSECUTED" Then stick up a cheap webcam inside your home pointing where you normally park. If you're using several locks and an alarm they'd take it much more seriously than if you weren't.

Just some ideas for you really.
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