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salty21
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: m.o.t fail? Reply with quote

as some may know i crashed my little super four last week and have sorted most of the damage now.

There is just one thing left that got me thinking.

one of the little tabs on the headstock that stops the bars going too far has come off, so the handlebars turn till they hit the tank when on full right lock. Now to me this causes no issue as but will it pass an m.o.t like this? and if not is there any known ways to temporarily fix it so the examiner wont notice? Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll fail on this part:

With the front wheel raised off the ground the handlebar must not hit or foul the tank when the steering is fully turned lock to lock, the steering must move freely and without drag or notchiness.

You can:

Drill a hole where the lock stop was and put a nut and bolt through so the bars hit that instead of the lock stop.

Weld a bit back on where the lock stop was.

Fit Race lockstops can really limit your steering lock so not too practical.
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will fail without the lockstop, the handles bars must not touch the tank.
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLUEX5 wrote:
Lucky it wasn't the tab on the frame or you'd of written the thing off! You could get another bottom yoke or effect a bodge by the nut and bolt trick mentioned by Ham below.


oh....errr....yeah, thats where it snapped off, i thought the headstock was the bit the stem goes through that the bearings sit in. thats where the tab snapped, i think the one on the bottom yoke is intact.

there's no damage to the surrounding area, just the tab. I'll get a pic.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get a new one welded on. Won't cost much.

It's worth trying for the MOT anyway, I've had a few bikes pass with knackered lockstops.

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PostPosted: 11:15 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

got pic, yeah thats what i thought gaz, i wrecken if i just paint it black to match and rub some mud on it, no one will ever know. The guy i use for m.o.t's is pretty lax anyway so im pretty sure he wont notice Laughing .

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PostPosted: 11:18 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the tank dented? Cuz that's a giveaway. I've MOT'd loads of bikes where you can catch your fingers between the bars and the tank too, and I think that's supposed to be a fail.

I always used to be afraid of 'getting stuff welded' because I always thought it'd be really expensive.

But then I found a cracking mobile welder, he comes out, does the job in about 10 minutes and charges very little.

So have a quick google, that place looks very accessible. Wouldn't take someone two minutes. Be good as new. Could even just weld a nut on there or something, it'll look the same once it's painted black.

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PostPosted: 11:22 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1, get it welded if you can.

Drilling the frame's obviously rather daft. Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazdaman wrote:
Is the tank dented? Cuz that's a giveaway.


yeah its dented but it was dented when i got it so it's obviously happened before and was most likely just a welded on stopper previously, probably why it came off so easy Rolling Eyes

I've got an arc welder at work and access to random bits of steel so will probably have a crack at it myself. Im no expert in the welding department but it looks like an easy bodge.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

salty21 wrote:

I've got an arc welder at work and access to random bits of steel so will probably have a crack at it myself. Im no expert in the welding department but it looks like an easy bodge.


Remember to disconnect your battery first.
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Re: m.o.t fail? Reply with quote

You could always try adding more stuff or a bolt to the tab on the bottom yoke.
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salty21
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:

Remember to disconnect your battery first.


Laughing i would have just set to it Shocked

good job someone knows what there doin Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

salty21 wrote:

Laughing i would have just set to it Shocked

good job someone knows what there doin Thumbs Up


Not sure if it is completely necessary, it's more of a precaution - I've always been told to do it, it's not like it takes a lot of effort.
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