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johnsmith222
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Abba front Lift Stand? Reply with quote

Hi.

I was wondering what everyone's opinion is of the abba front lift stand.

I have a ZZR600E and I need to change the front tyre. I have been looking at front paddock stands as I already have a centre stand on the bike.

Do you think that this stand is worthwhile for the money?

I don't ever like using dealers to do any work to the bike so I'm sure I'll be changing the steering head bearings at some point or fork oil etc.

Would there be any reason why I would need a front paddock stand if I got the abba front lift?

I understand that it wouldn't work on a bike that doesn't have a centrestand and I would need to buy an abba rear stand if I got a different bike.

What do you all think of it?

Does anyone have one?

https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/images/product/enlarge/abb_fr-prolift-stand.jpg
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mate bought the two as a set from the bike show many years ago. He's since long term loaned me the rear stand.

The rear stand is good, very useable and sturdy on the right ground. I use it for my Hayabusa on my own with no problems.

The front bit, I havent personally used it mind you, he said worked ok. I just use something like a block of wood and a jack if I want to lift the bike fully off the deck though. Confused
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you take the front wheel out most bikes will just rock back onto the rear wheel/center stand. short of that is a car jack under the downpipes and save your money.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Jay says, save your money ( cos they aint cheap for what it is ) and get a car jack. That's what I use with my ABBA stand.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys for saving me a lot of money.

I never thought about the bike possibly sitting on the rear and centrestand when the front wheel has been removed.

Would one of these be fine as my mum has one in her car:

https://ddl.me.cmu.edu/ddwiki/images/thumb/Jack_model_FBD.JPG/500px-Jack_model_FBD.JPG

or should I get something like this?

https://www.ranger-garageequipment.com/RFJ-3T.jpg
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Mr.Everready
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had a look at the abba site just see see the price of the lift. £55 Shocked fookin ell !

I use the trolley jack, you get them for about £10+
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the top one mate.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I never thought about the bike possibly sitting on the rear and centrestand when the front wheel has been removed.


The first time I ever took of the front wheel/forks the bike was on the centre stand with a couple of breeze blocks on the pillion seat.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What your mum has is fine, will need very little pressure to rock the bike back. I'd use a bit of wood on top just to protect your bike a little.
Put your bike on the stand and try and lift the front wheel. Bet you can do it with one hand! I could do this on my HUGE Bmw Gs!

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PostPosted: 17:10 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys for all your help.

you have saved me a lot of money! I will eventually get a decent trolley jack when I need to do fork oil or anything else. Thanks guys!

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PostPosted: 17:41 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking about doing my fork oil this weekend. No center stand, will just use a rear stand and 2 jacks with a piece of wood between going under my downpipes. One jack each side. Smile

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PostPosted: 17:54 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just use 3 blocks of wood nailed together .... rock the bike back on the rear, and kick the wood under the pipes Smile
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above, I normally use a bit of wood under the front. Bought a becker technik stand recently though and it has points on it where you can put a rope through, tie it round the rear footpegs and pull tight to get the front end up Cool
https://www.becker-technik.de/Motorbike-Lifter_Sport/body_motorbike-lifter_sport.html
Much prefer it to the abba stands Wink
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would anyone here risk my mums jack under the collector box and a block of wood under there with both wheels off?

My rear tyre just got a puncture I had to take that off and I'd like to make the one trip to the tyre shop.

Thanks for your help!
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I had the front end off, I just stacked up some blocks of wood under the down pipes with the bike on the centre stand. Worked lovely Smile
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is how real men do it Cool

in the rear one i had the whole swingarm off at one point Laughing

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PostPosted: 11:57 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

f*ck that!!!
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaPo wrote:
Bought a becker technik stand recently though and it has points on it where you can put a rope through, tie it round the rear footpegs and pull tight to get the front end up

ooooh! I like that strap idea ... why didnt I think of that Rolling Eyes

I shall be rigging up a tie strap contraption on my abba stand this weekend.
Expect to see subsequent tales / videos / pictures, of me dropping my bike on the concrete Smile
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have both the rear is a brilliant bit of kit the front is a waste as you can use other things to do it's job.
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

silky666 wrote:
CaPo wrote:
Bought a becker technik stand recently though and it has points on it where you can put a rope through, tie it round the rear footpegs and pull tight to get the front end up

ooooh! I like that strap idea ... why didnt I think of that Rolling Eyes

I shall be rigging up a tie strap contraption on my abba stand this weekend.
Expect to see subsequent tales / videos / pictures, of me dropping my bike on the concrete Smile


Use one of those ratchet tie downs round the rear foot pegs and round the abba stand, tighten rachet to pull rear of bike down and keep front in the air Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have both the Abba rear and front stands.

the front imo is pretty poor as i have a block paving and the wheels just seem to stick in the sandy parts.

its ok in the garage that is flatter but not flat.

i'm not sure if i am using it wrong as i try to lift on the sump of my GSXR but its higher than the downpipes so getting a good footing is difficult.

TBH if i hadn't got a good deal via gixerjunkies i would just use a trolley jack
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

salty21 wrote:
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I thought you could damage your brake lines if you leave the callipers hanging on them like that?

When I take off my front wheel I put my bike on the centre stand and wedge some bricks under the engine, does the job Laughing.
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do say that about brake lines, but, tbh, if they were that weak I wouldnt want to use them anyway.
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 13 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaPo wrote:
They do say that about brake lines, but, tbh, if they were that weak I wouldnt want to use them anyway.


It's probably not good for the lines. The calipers are pretty heavy.

Love the drawer though. Cool

Those plastic beer crates are ideal to kick under the down pipes if you can nick one from a local pub. Thumbs Up
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