Center stand and Kick start

[rac3r]

So can you use them?

I can't for shit! I struggled every time to use a centre stand on a CG and almost died trying to kick start a YBR
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[N cee thirty]

lmao i use both on my cg everyday

still can't get a good kick on the cg sometimes though
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[chris-red]

Yes because I'm not a small girl,

You thinkg a a fucking YBR is hard to kick try a 60's 650 Triumph.
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[Seb]

Center stands are all about technique, even my Futura was a doddle once I had it sussed, although I do cheat and lift the bike off the stand whilst sat on it rather than from the side to avoid any risk of dropping it that way

Soso on kick starts, smaller bikes are no problem for me but I suspect a big bit of British iron would soon put me in my place
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[neil.]

My YBR has no sidestand so I have to use the centre stand. Piece of cake really once you get the technique. Do you weigh less than a piece of paper or something? Kickstart isn't that hard either, but electric start is nicer!
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[evoboy]

No issue with either...
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[wr125x2011]

Try kick starting a ccm r30
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[stirlinggaz]

Hi,
not had many bike with centre stands so not had much experience with them.
however, on a couple of my bikes theres no kick-start & it would make them better bikes if they did have one, i still prefer to use one.
i find kick-starting my CCM604 a doddle, in fact one of the reasons i got it was because the kick-start is on the left side.
being left handed it seems more natural kicking with my left.
after 4 or 5 attempts with my right, on small bikes like the mtx200 i struggle.
being over 40, with too many years of booze & chemicals has turned me into a physical wreck,lol
cheers,
GAZ
on a side note, do bigger bikes with kick-starts still the compression lever thingie? or is that just on some older bikes?

[L-Jam]

Who has a problem with centre stands? Especially on a CG? I can pick a CG of the floor ffs


I put my CBR on the centre stand nearly every time tbh. All in the tekkers.
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[Mudskipper]

I learnt to use a kickstart when I was an 8 year old girl.

I see so many grown men trying to stamp down on kickstarts with all their brute strength - it doesn't work that way!

Technique, and watch out for any kickback

I struggle a little with centre stands, only because I've never used a bike regularly that has one.
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[stinkwheel]

Try kick starting my Enfield bullet (and if you can't, you're going nowhere). Do it wrong and it kicks you back.

My mate retro-fitted a kickstart off an older model to his KLR 650. Didn't fit any form of decompressor though. It was entertaining to watch him, a 6'7" bloke weighing about 16 stone taking a huge leap in the air to land on the kickstart with his full weight and it go "bump." once.

It would usually take 5 or 6 such jumps to get it to fire up.

I'd suggest there is something wrong with said YBR if it wont start easily off the kicker. That said, it's much easier to kick start them if they are on the centre stand..

Rolling the bike forwards so the front wheel is up against a kerb/wall before kicking it over helps stop your kicking effort turning into forwards motion.
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[Kal]

Each bike has a technique to the kickstart, once you get it then it's no problem. I struggled wth the CG for a couple fo months until I got it right everytime and could do it with minimum of effort.


As for the centrestand, again technique. Facing the bike as if your dick is flopped out on the seat. With your left hand on the handle bars, right on the handle at the rear, push the centrestand down with your left foot and as it makes contact with the road surface move the bike backwards. No effort. Job is a good one.
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[ms51ves3]

If I couldn't use a kickstart I'd have issues riding my bike

Centre stands are fine on smaller bikes (up to 150ish kg), but not on bigger ones. Only tried a couple of times, maybe my technique is wrong or maybe it's because I weigh bugger all.

[rac3r]

I think I should walk away in shame
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[stinkwheel]

[Bendy]

Centrestand... never had any trouble with CB5 or CBR6 but the Sprint did elude me. But it was a really heavy bugger and I was really scared of knocking it over trying.

I'm fine with woofy little 2 stroke kickers, never tried anything bigger but I suspect I'd suck at anything remotely 'manly'.

A cg weighs the same as a bag of crisps! Maybe when you grow some hair on your balls you'll be able to manage.

[ajbsmirnoff]

No probs with centre stand on the GS500, it was all in the technique.

[Pie-Roe]

Centre stands are easy enough. My first rf900 had one for some reason (not std) and it worked fine. Just had to realise it was one smooth motion.

Kicking again was fine. Kicked started all of my big singles. TDC, twist of the throttle to squirt some go go juice in there and a big hefty downkick and it goes.

Pyro
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[Serendipity]

First part of my CBT nigh on 17 years ago was centre stand technique. It’s been working for me ever since. Only time I ever had a problem was getting the bike off the stand in a London bike park. The bay was single file and some joker had plonked his BMW right up against my front wheel. No room to roll off the stand. In the end I had to pick up the rear of my bike and kick the stand up. Thought I was going to skittle the whole line of bikes over.

Likewise been ok with kick-starts except for a mates Ducati 450 single. It kicked back on me once and spat me up in the air. It also tore a muscle in my mate’s leg. After that I lost my nerve trying to kick that machine and took to bump starting it.
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[The999Kid]

centre stands rock... im happy as larry with them.. i've never, ever kick started a bike because i've never had a bike with a kickstart...
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[metalangel]

Struggled with centre stands on CBT but once you 'get' it, it's easily. Just remember until you get the hang of it you might well be pushing down so much with your foot on the stand that your other foot leaves the ground...
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[ollieholt]

any honda cg owner with profess how easy both, my fazer is no trouble getting on and off the stand. its all in the hips.... im lying. man up!!!

on this note. i saw a bloke on an old thing, kicked it up about 6 times, got it going. got the missus on the back and then stalled it. we all thought, gutted! hes gun have to get her off again etc. nope just flicked the starter button.... i ask you, why?!?! it was at rivington barn biek meet on a sunday though so maybe it was for effect. the gimmer.
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