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DrDonnyBrago
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 18 Jun 2010    Post subject: Speed Scamera Funding Reply with quote
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1287496/Ministers-promise-end-funding-speed-camera-cash-cow.html

Found this at the DailyFail, doesn't say what they will be doing about the exisiting scameras but it's better than nothing.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 18 Jun 2010    Post subject: Re: Speed Scamera Funding Reply with quote
DonnyBrago wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1287496/Ministers-promise-end-funding-speed-camera-cash-cow.html

Found this at the DailyFail, doesn't say what they will be doing about the exisiting scameras but it's better than nothing.


Welcome to last month! Wink

I suspect it was posted in Biking News or somewhere else that nobody looks.
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DrDonnyBrago
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 18 Jun 2010    Post subject: Re: Speed Scamera Funding Reply with quote
MarJay wrote:
DonnyBrago wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1287496/Ministers-promise-end-funding-speed-camera-cash-cow.html

Found this at the DailyFail, doesn't say what they will be doing about the exisiting scameras but it's better than nothing.


Welcome to last month! Wink

I suspect it was posted in Biking News or somewhere else that nobody looks.


Ah... it was formally announced yesterday with the rest of the budget gubbins, I must have missed the 1st posting Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 18 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah this was one of their policies....'Ending the war on the motorist', so they weren't lying. Good effort!

Maybe the police will be doing actual police work now as well......I did say maybe!

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PostPosted: 22:13 - 18 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yeah this was one of their policies....'Ending the war on the motorist', so they weren't lying. Good effort!

Maybe the police will be doing actual police work now as well......I did say maybe!

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Would be nice wouldn't it Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 18 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bishbash wrote:

Maybe the police will be doing actual police work now as well......I did say maybe!
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I do get a little bored of hearing this.

A tiny fraction of the police have ever served in a traffic unit or have even touched a speed gun.

Most uniformed police spend most of their time dealing with the usual shoplifters/domestics/assaults/stabbings/drunken twats/street robbers/burglaries/criminal damages and rapes.

Despite the usual bile and lies in the Daily Fail, we get to the overwhelming majority of immediate grade calls in minutes - I think my BOCU has an over 99% I-grade compliance rating. The average response time is something like 4 or 5 minutes.

We get plenty of complaints from posh people who wake up in the morning, find their house was burgled hours ago overnight, and expect the police to turn up in 30 seconds. If we're free we will, but not on blue lights, and not if we are running to a more serious call - of which there are many.

Incidentally, we attend EVERY burglary, despite people claiming otherwise.

I dish out a few traffic tickets a month - but if you're stupid enough to do a red light or talk on your mobile in front of a marked police vehicle then you're asking to be stuck on.

If I see unsafe vehicles or appalling driving I'll stick people on for that too - I've even done it for a bus driver who almost killed me twice in the space of 300m on my ride home from work and laughed about it, blissfully unaware he was being a cock to a doughnut-muncher.

Surely we all want these people dealt with before they kill or injure a biker or some cute kittens?

I pull over plenty of bikes - almost always because they are being ridden badly by someone who doesn't seem to be in control, making me think they might be stolen. You show your license, it matches the registered/insured owner and you're on your way.

Surely finding stolen bikes and nicking bike thieves is also a good thing?

I wouldn't even know who runs the speed cameras in my borough, it certainly isn't me or any other uniformed police officer.
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
While many points you make are true mister james, for the regular law abiding citizen the only point of contact with the police is traffic police, so their behaviour will affect the public perception disproportionately to their actual numbers...
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
TheDonUK wrote:
While many points you make are true mister james, for the regular law abiding citizen the only point of contact with the police is traffic police, so their behaviour will affect the public perception disproportionately to their actual numbers...


That's certainly true, however people ought to be able to to make the distinction rather than lazy assumption that they secretly know not to be true.
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
You give Mr and Mrs Average Joe far too much credit if you think they will think anything beyond assumptions and what they read in the Sun/Mail no? Wink
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PostPosted: 08:02 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mister James wrote:
TheDonUK wrote:
While many points you make are true mister james, for the regular law abiding citizen the only point of contact with the police is traffic police, so their behaviour will affect the public perception disproportionately to their actual numbers...


That's certainly true, however people ought to be able to to make the distinction rather than lazy assumption that they secretly know not to be true.


I think most people understand that many of the mobile cameras aren't manned by officers. However, I have been caught speeding five times and all but one were by officers. One was at about 3am going 7mph over on an empty Dartford bridge and that WAS definately by cops.

As far as the thread topic is concerned - don't be so sure. Despite what they say you can't seriously expect the new Gov't to pass up the opportunity to use the road pricing cameras which are still being rolled-out to take advantage of the recently-passed legislation that allows them to make average speed checks on every mile of uk motorways.

Labour have truly stiffed the motorist and the legacy remains IMO.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pete. wrote:

I think most people understand that many of the mobile cameras aren't manned by officers. However, I have been caught speeding five times and all but one were by officers. One was at about 3am going 7mph over on an empty Dartford bridge and that WAS definately by cops.


My argument isn't that the police don't enforce speed limits - I'm pointing out that the implication we ONLY enforce speed limits is utter bollocks. The vast majority of uniformed officers are dealing with totally different matters for the vast majority of their shift.

My argument ref. being caught for speeding remains the same - pretty much everyone does it, but we all know that there might be a Rat lurking round the next corner with a speed camera. You don't wanna do the time, don't do the crime!
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hey I'm not complaining about being caught - ok I AM complaining about it but not blaming anyone but myself. I don't even blame the cops on the street for that since they don't generally decide their own duties.

The only way you could genuinely think that any person believes there are cops that ONLY operate speed traps however is by exhibiting the same level of ignorance that you're suggesting they are. You can't have your donut and eat it Very Happy
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