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Alex A
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 17 Jun 2010    Post subject: Single Sided Swingarm - Eccentric Cam Reply with quote

I'm attempting to adjust the chain on a friends Triumph T595. Undone the locking bolt and have the tool to turn the cam.

Unfortunately I don't have a suitable paddock stand so it's difficult to turn against the weight of the bike, but has just required a bit of muscle in the past. The chain's now a bit loose but the cam doesn't want to turn any further at all.

Are there any markers to check whether it's it's at the extent of it's travel?
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 17 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it won't turn clockwise turn it anti-clockwise a bit then clockwise again until you feel if it hits a stop or not.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 17 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didnt think there was a stop to them, should go right round. I know my VFR400 one does.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 17 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's anything like the VFR750 one (and I think it is very similar). The cam will turn all the way round. People use it to raise/lower the ride height slightly depending on if the spindle is above of below the midline.

As such, you could try turning it all the way round the other way, it'll loosen then start to tighten again.

They do get gummed up with crap off the road, which on the VFR one goes up through a hole near the front of the swingarm, runs along it and gets deposited right in the middle of the hub assembly where there is a groove you could swear had been put there just to accumulate dust and small stones.

When I stripped mine for new bearings, I cleaned all the crud out, greased the outside of the hub assembly then filled the void in the swingarm with expanding foam to stop it happening again.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 17 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all.

All the way around makes sense.

I think it's just badly gummed up (doesn't seem to want to shift either way, having tried it). Hasn't been degreased for some time (i.e. years) by the looks of it. And with a tool that's a little bent (i.e. straightened) I'm not getting a good purchase on the teeth of the cam. Would probably be doable relatively easily with a single sided paddock stand.
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PostPosted: 01:37 - 18 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good squirt of penetrating oil followed by working it back and forth ought to work wonders.
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 18 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
A good squirt of penetrating oil followed by working it back and forth ought to work wonders.


Tried exactly that this afternoon and did the trick perfectly Thumbs Up

First tried to turn it all the way back (loosening the chain) to see if it would tighten back up again, but it seemed to hit a definite stop, so perhaps it does not go all the way around a la single sided Hondas.

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The brake caliper hanging plate has a slot in it which will only allow the [eccentric] adjuster to be turned forwards 'so far'. The purpose of this plate is to keep the caliper and pads in line with the disk.


Anyway...

Turned it back and got past the point it was at initially and got the chain just about right.

One final question - I don't have the original manual and can't find one. Does anyone know the correct torque figure for the locking nut? I'm guessing in the region of 60-90 or so (have set it at 70Nm at the moment which felt about right).
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 18 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex A wrote:

One final question - I don't have the original manual and can't find one. Does anyone know the correct torque figure for the locking nut? I'm guessing in the region of 60-90 or so (have set it at 70Nm at the moment which felt about right).


In all honesty, "feel" is as good a measure as any. If you're used to doing up nuts and bolts, if it feels nipped-up, it is.

Many bolts have been broken over the years using a torque wrench set to the "correct" setting.
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 18 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the manual for my ST :


Rear hub / eccentric adjuster clamp bolt is 55Nm
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Everready wrote:
According to the manual for my ST :


Rear hub / eccentric adjuster clamp bolt is 55Nm


That sounds about right to me. 70Nm for a steel bolt into aluminium sounds way too high
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

timmy wrote:
Mr.Everready wrote:
According to the manual for my ST :


Rear hub / eccentric adjuster clamp bolt is 55Nm


That sounds about right to me. 70Nm for a steel bolt into aluminium sounds way too high


My turbo bike head-bolts are done up to 101Nm Smile

Fine thread too so the tensile force is even higher than a stock bolt.
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

timmy wrote:

That sounds about right to me. 70Nm for a steel bolt into aluminium sounds way too high


It's a big one though. M10.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:

My turbo bike head-bolts are done up to 101Nm Smile


And if you only do them to 100, it'll blow round the head gasket. Wink
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Pete. wrote:

My turbo bike head-bolts are done up to 101Nm Smile


And if you only do them to 100, it'll blow round the head gasket. Wink


You know me - always like to go one better Very Happy

Actually it's 101.6865nm - 75 foot-pounds Smile
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