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[Mister James]

Ahhh, my (not so) secret weakness - Indian girls! I'd let them slap me all day long!
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[Tarmacsurfer]

[Mister James]

My duty to the good people of London comes before any wish I have to get charged with affray for kicking the communal arse of BCF's pedbois!


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[The View Askew]

Police are different in the states.

If you fuck about to much, they will shoot at you immediately.

Here they flap their gums and wait for you to calm down, maybe hit you with something.

But jaywalking is an idiotic law anyway IMO, could be better used in Mumbai.
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[Misc]

[Tarmacsurfer]

[Hetzer]

[Mister James]

[Hetzer]

[Mister James]

Then you'd be spending a long time in prison polishing your hardman persona, and deservedly so.

People interfering with arrests seldom pause to consider checks/balances/magnitude of police actions - so the level of force used by the police is almost irrelevant. A swift resolution of the physical arrest is not.

[Hetzer]

[yuri2085]

Glad hetzers back but I think we got a bit too much of the 'ranting from my corner' thing going on.
Seem to be enjoying your new found 'hetzerness' as it is getting more and more ranting by the day!

I am not going to give a point by point analysis or event a useful criticism only that your arguments (rants before the calm era) seemed a bit more reasonable, rather than defensive and reactionary.

[yuri2085]

Also did some looking around about that indian slap thing.

She is meant to aggravate and annoy contestants with mostly scripted stuff, on the improv the contestants were playing cool and doing well. She eventually gave up only to be told to try harder. She goes mad and out of character yells WHY DONT YOU FUCK OFF THEN. He stays in character and says 'you go' she loses it and slaps him. He slaps back.
A few macho guys who want some pussy go mad, a crowd develops and many of the guys are kicking the shit out of him while he yells 'how can she slap'. Eventually he has a chance to speak and in a very submissive tone say 'sir, how can she slap me sir'. Some people are offended by this and go crazy again.
Some have stipulated that this manner of talking is because he is 'lower class' indian and they are allowed to be slapped to take them down a peg back to where they belong, self defence or retaliation against an 'upper class' person is not acceptable.

Her character does not behave like that.
He is suing her, although not sure if the indian courts will give a shit. I am under the impression he was quite badly injured.

[Visitor Q]

Yes, you can put a lovely spin on it being necessary and legal. Must admit I've no more sympathy for girls getting decked by officers, and it actually states neither were injured. She deserved a smack for being that retarded.

I've helped many friends in kak with police, even when I've been steaming. It's all about subtly polishing their ego and appearing erudite. Just because it's such a novelty.

However, this whole distraction strike stuff. I can understand if people are resisting, but it seems in any brawl involving police or bouncers that it's just par for the course (after a quick scan for CCTV). Even if you've not been misbehaving too much, they take pride in brutality if you've had a few. I've taken a load of punches to the face by a group of girls, with my hands behind my back smiling. A bouncer double arm bound me (with no resistance) while he ignored them punching me. And then promptly tried to throw me down a flight of stairs. Luckily I was somewhat bigger and uglier then him, so pushed back (suck on my Newton's law bitch!) until I could point out his logical stumbling block.

As said, it just seems like the trained response.

Which is why most people cheer when they see pouncers or police get slapped, and why they tend to cock an eyebrow when footage like the OP gets circulated. The cocky swagger of self appointed impunity is a double-edged sword.
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[Hetzer]

[JasonK]

"The World is run by one million evil men, ten million stupid men and a hundred million cowards. There are only one million of them, the truly evil men, in the whole world. The very rich and the very powerful, whose decisions really count - they only number one million. The stupid men, who number ten million, are the soldiers and policemen who enforce the rule of the evil men. They are the standing armies of twelve key countries, and the police forces of those and twenty more. In total, there are only ten million of them with any real power or consequence. They are often brave, I'm sure, but they are stupid, too, because they give their lives for governments and causes that use their flesh and blood as mere chess pieces. Those governments always betray them or let them down or abandon them, in the long run. Nations neglect no men more shamefully than the heroes of their wars. And the hundred million cowards, they are the bureaucrats and paper shufflers and pen-pushers who permit the rule of the evil men, and look the other way. They are the head of this department, and the secretary of the committee, and the president of the other association. They are the managers, and the officials, and mayors, and officials of the court. They always defend themselves by saying that they are just doing their job, and it's nothing personal,and if they don't do it, someone else surely will. They are the hundred millions cowards who know what is going on, but say nothing, while they sign the paper that puts one man before a firing squad, or condemns one million men to the slower death of a famine. So thats it. The world is run by one million evil men, ten million stupid men and a hundred million cowards. The rest of us, all six billion of us, do pretty much what we are told!"

from Shantaram

[Hetzer]

[killa]

Tarmacsurfer, taking that comment out of context seems a little unfair. Take my entire post, it had nothing to do with ‘fair’ and more to do with filth throwing a wobbly.
And that’s what I saw, anger. Not pleasant, knowing that you’re watching ‘trained officers’ up to no good. You can’t do bugger all either.
Mr James works in an environment where resistance is expected, I’m glad he utilises the ‘distraction blows’ correctly but to say it’s used UK wide by the forces isn’t quite as black and white is it.
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[Tarmacsurfer]

Maybe my wording was harsh but my point still stands. When attempting to restrain someone safely and efficiently it's highly unlikely they'll be resisting in accordance with the Marquess of Queensbury's rules. Take Hetzer's little rant for example, we already know he has a penchant for gouging eyes. How do you control someone doing that when all you can do is attempt to use locks and leverage against a person who may well be in such a state either through adrenaline or intoxicants that they barely even register what you're doing, their only goal is to hurt people. Hence piling en masse and using blows to soft tissue and nerves to numb extremities and sap power. Yes, it looks harsh but if done properly it leaves someone in a much better state than the other options. The rub is that is isn't always done properly, or even appropriately in hindsight. I didn't see what you saw so cannot offer an informed opinion there, but I've used similar strikes to good effect and what may have looked like a bloke being randomly punched - hard - was in fact a way of incapacitating an arm and a leg long enough to get him under control and away from a group.

I'm far from a police fan boi (Mister James will attest as to just how much I rip the piss out of him on occasion) and Bonny's point about Bouncers is a good one. Since the licensing system shut the doors and it became closed to all but larger companies the quality of door staff has gone through the floor, we're back to seeing brainless "hard men" who are more concerned about a free night out than seeing the punters have a good and safe night. Or so it seems to me a lot of the time. I still don't quite understand how putting on a high viz bib makes one a "professional" but that's a question for another thread.
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[Hetzer]

I don't have a penchent for gouging eyes, that's saved for special occasions, which are when I really want to hurt somebody. In most of the non-war altercations I've had it's been fists and feet. Or a bat.

I don't like violence, and I can say with my hand on my heart that when I've done somebody over I've often felt sorry for them, even as it's happening sometimes.

People that enjoy it, and that includes 99.9% of the police, don't feel good about themselves. They have myriad issues. Insecurity, low self-esteem, fear, you name it. They are fundamentally bullies, who enjoy inflicting violence with none of the worries about getting hurt themselves.
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[Hetzer]

[killa]

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