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MORLEY
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Do you think rossi should go 2 F1 Reply with quote

I think he should after he wins the moto gp again cause he only has gibernau that can beat him and he needs to do somthing else 8 Cool
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, I think he should go 'to' F1...

However, back on topic.

He's the only guy racing in something other than cars that I think could cause an upset in Formula One. The guy obviously has immense talent and the same type of attitude as the Cobbler from Kerpen. He also has more personality too, but then, that's not difficult, he's not German!

Shcuey reckoned last weekend that MotoGP is not as good as F1. Although when Rossi tested the Ferrari at Fiorano a few weeks ago he was only about three seconds off the pace of the regular Ferrari F1 testers and racers. Not a huge amount to make up after a good deal of testing and milage in a car.

It would be good to see someone do the double again like Surtees did, especially in the modern ages where gizmos prevail.
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be interesting to see how he did, but i don't think he should hes the Michael Schumacher of bike racing, so he should stay with bikes, most F1 guys have been racing cars since they were kids in go carts.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

He tried Rally Driving last year I think it was.

Crashed it into a ditch, left it there and went home. He didn't want to play anymore Very Happy

I personally don't like him but thats me.

I think he should stay with the 2 wheels.
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its a distinct possibility, but the question is whether any of the big teams would give him a drive. If not, then he has no chance of the title.

He does quite a lot of Ralying and is quite good at it.

TBH I'd rather see him move to Kawasaki or Proton before he leaves MotoGP. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

He has done a lot of kart racing in his youth. His family pushed him into kart racing thinking 4 wheels were safer than 2.

There have also been rumours that he was a lot quicker than officially admitted at the Ferrari test.

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PostPosted: 13:29 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

i heard he was only 1 second off schumachers pace, could be wrong though. What would that do to peoples impressions of bikes, when you are forever saying its more skill to ride a bike, (well i am) and if rossi could step up to formula one that would prove it for me...it would be great!

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PostPosted: 13:52 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Rossi was only one second off the pace, they'd be lining up to sign him. Can't see that being true though.

If he thought he could get a drive I think he would take it, there's ALOT more $$$ in F1 than MotoGP. Just look at what Ralph is getting, $36m over 3 years Shocked .
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rossi thrives on a challenge which is why he went to Yamaha. He wanted to prove Honda wrong when they said it was the bike and not the rider who was the reason for so many world titles. He's not doing too bad a job of it so far is he.

I think he will try his hand at F1 in the future, the lure of the challenge will be difficult for him to resist, unless he gets a call from Ducati in the next couple of years. Now that would keep him in MotoGP for sure.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

More than likely is that he's waiting for the Schumacher era to come to an end, then it will be possible for more people to win. Or, if he gets the nod from Ferrari, he wont be playing second fiddle.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rossi went to yamaha for the same reason schumacher went to ferrari, boredom with the opertunity for superstardom.
I had rossi came within 2 seconds of schumachers fastest time, which means if you slapped him in a ferrari now chances are he would be competetive, allthough probably not challenging for points etc.

If rossi wanted to go to F1 he could, a team like toyota, jaguar or jordan would look at him as an answer to all their problems due to the imense support and merchendising possabilities he would bring with him.

I would like to see it happen, allthough there is no chance of it whilst he is still being challenged on two wheels. he will wait untill there is no doubt he is king of motoGP before leaving just to avoid people saying he wasnt the best and left before it was proved.
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
If rossi wanted to go to F1 he could, a team like toyota, jaguar or jordan would look at him as an answer to all their problems due to the imense support and merchendising possabilities he would bring with him.


Why Toyota? They have made it clear they are willing to spend as much as it takes to win the world title, just look at what they are paying Ralf Schumacher.

If Rossi entered F1, he would not dominate straight away, but I reckon he could win the world championship. He would be getting into four wheel racing very late, but his record in bikes would support a good drive for him.

With F1, mid-30's is retirement time realistically. Rossi could spend the rest of his career trying to win a couple of F1 titles, or accumilating countless MotoGP titles.

I reckon he should do the the Isle of Man TT. That would be superb! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reasons Rossi is so good on a bike are a) he is suberb at knowing what the limits of his machine are. b) he moves his body around in a way that counters some of those limits. Personally I think he would struggle in a car because he can't use his strengths in the same way. I would hate to see him move to F1 and rapidly become yesterday's man.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd hate to see him go to F1.

F1 is so dull and boring.
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toyota would be a good posability as they are stuggling somewhat and can afford to pay him huge amounts. i dont expect ralf and toyota to do much in the next year or so, so rossi might be an attractive proposition is a potential schumacher.

Jordan, minardi, jaguar are off the pace, somewhat lacking in support and big name drivers and have a high driver turnover. so they would be ideal for rossi to move to.
Rossi would be quite a big risk for a large team as he would of course want to be the main driver.

Rhino wrote:

I reckon he should do the the Isle of Man TT. That would be superb! Thumbs Up


Nah, cant see it happening personally Crying or Very sad
the TT is too dangerous, he has too much to lose and nothing to prove.
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhino wrote:

With F1, mid-30's is retirement time realistically. Rossi could spend the rest of his career trying to win a couple of F1 titles, or accumilating countless MotoGP titles.


That's why Schumacher Snr is currently heading for title number Seven and turned 35 at the start of this year. And is scheduled to carry on until at least 2006. Olivier Panis is 37. Prost came back to win his fourth World Championship when approaching 40.

With the constant usage of driver aids its easier now than ever to drive a Formula One car. Rossi could take all the time in the world and still make it and be reasonably competitive.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Age isnt so much the limiting factor, its more money. by the time they hit mid 30's they have earned enough money and had enough of the pressure to justify leaving the sport. old people arnt allways slow, fangio won a world championship in his late 40's alesi who left GP racing years ago is still highly competitive in the DTM.

Rossi could do it, but like schumacher he is going nowhere untill he is clearly domenant. If shumacher thrashes the pants off everyone this season he will leave at the end, if he gets challenged all the way he will stay for another year.
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 15 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think Rossi could finish one season in MotoGP and then come back the following year in F1. I think he would need more than that time frame to become competitive in an F1 car and also don't drivers have to have completed a certain number of miles in the car before they can race?

Can he win F1? I'm not too sure about that, he could certainly be in the top half of the field but I don't think he would ever be as dominant as Schumacher.

If he was to leave MotoGP it would certainly affect the sport as Rossimania has helped increase the profile of the sport within the media

Where will be his place in Bike racing history? Only time will tell.....
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 16 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

dibbster wrote:
I don't think Rossi could finish one season in MotoGP and then come back the following year in F1. I think he would need more than that time frame to become competitive in an F1 car and also don't drivers have to have completed a certain number of miles in the car before they can race?



He'd pass the required number of miles needed to get his F1 superlicence in post and pre-season testing, and then some.

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Can he win F1? I'm not too sure about that, he could certainly be in the top half of the field but I don't think he would ever be as dominant as Schumacher.


There's two different questions there. Can he win? Yes, definately, if he was put in a Ferrari, McLaren or Williams that was the dominant force at the time (currently the shiney red cars Wink ) then he'd win, without doubt.
Could he be as dominant as Schumacher? Who cares? The fans don't want anyone to be dominant all the time, it's boring. All he'd need to do is be compeititve and win, even once. He'll have matched Surtees and done the double. Seven world titles is asking a bit much of anyone to be honest.

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If he was to leave MotoGP it would certainly affect the sport as Rossimania has helped increase the profile of the sport within the media


But F1 needs a shot in the arm like that right now. I give it two, maybe three years before the question of him racing rears its head again. Once he's done a couple of championship years at Yamaha and proved to Honda they were too far up their own arses, he'll want a diffeent challenge.
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 16 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam_P wrote:

That's why Schumacher Snr is currently heading for title number Seven and turned 35 at the start of this year. And is scheduled to carry on until at least 2006. Olivier Panis is 37. Prost came back to win his fourth World Championship when approaching 40.

With the constant usage of driver aids its easier now than ever to drive a Formula One car. Rossi could take all the time in the world and still make it and be reasonably competitive.


Schumacher senior has been contemplating retireing for the las couple of seasons, and Prost and Panis are the exceptions rather than the rule - much like Neville Southall in football I suppose.

It's now more difficult to drive the cars as the G forces they produce are huge, and with the speeds reactions need to be lightening quick.

If Rossi did go into F1, it would generate a huge amount of interest, as the whole debate of will John Surtees' record stand would be raised again. If you'd have asked ten years a ago, everyone would have said it was impossible - that you have to concentrate on one sport from a young age. But I suppose that it would be more like changing Rugby codes for Rossi, rather than a whole new ball game.

Also, didn't Rossi have a few races in go-karts before turning his hand to mini-moto's? That would have to work in his favour.
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 16 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhino wrote:

Schumacher senior has been contemplating retireing for the las couple of seasons, and Prost and Panis are the exceptions rather than the rule - much like Neville Southall in football I suppose.


Yeah, but that's been to give the other teams and drivers a glimmer of hope. And also to make sure the fans buy as much merchandise as possible year on year as it might be 'the last time we see him in a GP car...' Trust me. Wink

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It's now more difficult to drive the cars as the G forces they produce are huge, and with the speeds reactions need to be lightening quick.


Not entirely true, the days of slick tyres an turbo engines with 1500 horses were the days when you needed to have ultra quick reactions and balls the size of pumpkins. The latest tyres have as much grip nowadays as the slicks did, but they move around more so the G loading on a driver isn't as bad as it was in, say, Mansell's Championship year, when they had active suspension that allowed them to corner substanially faster than now. And the ground effects cars of the early eighties were just mental! Shocked

When Mansell did his qualifying lap of Silverstone in '92, the G through Becketts added up to 8 G. James Allen pointed out that the cars last weekend were pulling between 3-4, probably works out at around , 7 at a push maybe.

Bring back slicks, that's what I say! Laughing Rossi would probably love that more too!
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 16 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam_P wrote:
Bring back slicks, that's what I say! Laughing Rossi would probably love that more too!


Agreed! Thumbs Up
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