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Posted: 13:33 - 21 Jun 2010 Post subject: |
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Latest update - generator cover is sorted but the generator itself is shagged. A new one is massively out of my budget so does anyone know of someone who is either breaking a tt600 (or bike with the same gen) or who can rewind them?
I've checked eBay and wemoto and coming up with very little. I may have bought a pup ____________________ Theory test - 19/8/09, CBT - 11/10/09, MOD 1 - 16/8/10, MOD 2 - 27/10/10
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Posted: 20:27 - 21 Jun 2010 Post subject: |
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I'm sure Jack Lilley can get them rewound for about £200. Otherwise, a new one is around £400.
The speed four stators are identical and offer better output. Daytona 600 stators should be identical too.
If your stator is shagged, then your reg/rec will most likely be too. So factor the cost of one of those in too.
Here's something I knicked off Triumph Rat on how to test your system:
1) Charge the battery overnight (7~12 hours), not to exceed 24 hours. Being a bike you should charge at a very low rate, like 1-2 amps. You may exceed 24 hours if you are using a ‘smart charger’.
2) Disconnect charger and allow battery to stand for 30 minutes to an hour. Check the battery voltage with a digital voltmeter. The voltage should be around 13.3~13.5. If the voltage is less than 12.5, replace the battery.
3) Install known good battery into bike and start engine. After warm-up, bring engine speed up to 5000 rpm and measure the battery voltage at the same time (DC or DCV setting on your voltmeter). The voltage should be about 14~14.5 volts. If the voltage is greater than 15, the problem is most likely the rectifier/regulator. If the voltage is less than 13.5, then it’s either the alternator (stator coil) or the rectifier/regulator, or possibly even both.
3a) SIDE NOTE: A problem that seems to occur with sportbikes rather frequently is the 3-terminal stator coil connection fails and the resultant heat from the I*R drop melts the connector. In addition, the red-wire contact on the rectifier/regulator connector also has a history of oxidation/corrosion. Be sure to check these, clean them and use new dielectric grease!
4) To check the stator coil (alternator), measure the AC (AC or ACV setting) output voltage between all three stator leads (1 to 2, 1 to 3, 2 to 3). To do this unplug the connector, start the bike and test each pair with your voltmeter. The AC voltage should be at least about 10 volts AC for every thousand of engine rpm. Test the AC output voltage up to about 5000 rpm. ____________________ ZX6R C6F.
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Posted: 20:15 - 22 Jun 2010 Post subject: |
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As far as I understand the generator hasn't died completely but "wont last much longer". Will it have still cause problems with the regulator rectifier?
New chain and sprocket will be put off until I have some cashola and will instead get a lovely scrub in a parafin bath. Not much progress will be made until I actually get the bike back from the garage. Hopefully in a weeks time ____________________ Theory test - 19/8/09, CBT - 11/10/09, MOD 1 - 16/8/10, MOD 2 - 27/10/10
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chris-red Have you considered a TDM?
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Posted: 14:45 - 11 Jul 2010 Post subject: |
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Finally I have a new gen cover fitted, generator rewound, oil filter, air filter and service done. Now its time for spit n polish and general tarting up ready for my test in a few weeks time. The boyfriend and I rolled up our sleeves and spent a couple of hours fettling away.
First things first, mug of boiling water and a knife and off comes the old worn out gearchange rubber and on with the new.
https://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/siany_album/035-1.jpg
Clear lenses on the back
https://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/siany_album/033-1.jpg
Yoke protector
https://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/siany_album/034-1.jpg
Off came the fairings to be degreased and polished, also went over the tank and all the plastics. They came out pretty well, I think.
https://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/siany_album/038-1.jpg
https://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/siany_album/044.jpg
https://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/siany_album/043-1.jpg
https://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/siany_album/039-1.jpg
After taking the fairings off we discovered that the fairing infill panel had melted. No problem, someone is breaking a TT on ebay and had the part I needed for a 2001 bike for not very much money. Should arrive next week
https://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/siany_album/040-1.jpg
Apparently my school has a sand blaster so sometime next week I will take off all the metalwork that needs to be repainted and blast it. Im thinking of spraying them black to match the tank rather than silver. Also ordered a new chain and sprocket set, double bubble screen and some fairing bolts. I still have my new footpegs and front indicators to fit but thats where I am up to at the moment!
Just out of curiosity, I took the seat off but now it doesnt seem to fit back on properly. Is there supposed to be a rubber bit that fits under the latch by the tank? ____________________ Theory test - 19/8/09, CBT - 11/10/09, MOD 1 - 16/8/10, MOD 2 - 27/10/10
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Posted: 11:27 - 12 Jul 2010 Post subject: |
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Congratulations! You've spent more time cleaning your TT already than I have in a year and a half. ____________________ Current Bikes: Husqvarna Svartpilen 401 (2020)
Former Bikes: Honda MSX125 (2014), BMW Funduro (1996), Honda VT500 (1983), Yamaha FZR250 (1989), Suzuki GZ125 Marauder(2005),:Triumph TT600 (2002) (stolen)
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Posted: 15:47 - 12 Jul 2010 Post subject: |
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Hmm, would I have bought the bike if I had known about the problems.... Probably not. But I had set aside a budget of £2k and set my heart on a TT, I had chased down three or four already only to get there too late or discover that they were major lemons (huge fairing cracks covered by stickers, new engines with no reason why) so I did rush into it. However I did buy it as a learning experience and that is what I'm getting! It was under my budget so I don't feel too sore about the generator. I HPI checked it and the guy I bought it from seemed genuine so I will just suck it up and be wiser when buying privately in the future.
However, I love my bumblebee TT to bits! I sat on a few sports bikes and it was either a TT or GSXR because the seating position was a lot more comfortable than others.
Up next: waffles learns how to repair broken fairings and fit a new chain and sprocket set! ____________________ Theory test - 19/8/09, CBT - 11/10/09, MOD 1 - 16/8/10, MOD 2 - 27/10/10
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Hazylogic World Chat Champion
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Posted: 17:04 - 12 Jul 2010 Post subject: |
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well it is all a learning curve. I would like to see more pics too |
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waffles World Chat Champion
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Posted: 17:09 - 12 Jul 2010 Post subject: |
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Most definately, im hoping to get some nice presents from the postie this week so I can get some more stuff done at the weekend.
And Muzza - the cracked engine casing leaked oil inside the fairings. It took me an hour with a paint brush and a can of engine degreaser to get rid of most of the sh1t inside! I feel proud of myself but im not so sure I want to do that all the time. ____________________ Theory test - 19/8/09, CBT - 11/10/09, MOD 1 - 16/8/10, MOD 2 - 27/10/10
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Old Thread Alert!
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Old Thread Alert!
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