Concerning behaviour

[Billing]

Just been thinking about something that happened today that honestly made me very uncomfortable.

When I go to work I park my bike opposite our stores front doors about 30feet away, best way to describe it is at about 1 o'clock as you look out. I have done this since my CG was stolen so that I can see it at all times (I work on the till)
Today after I'd parked up and locked up (25mm thick link, hardened steel Squire chain, looped tight through the rear wheel and swing arm and over the rider seat) I was surprised to see 2 guys on bicycles riding around the carpark, their attention focused solely on my bike, which I thought was fine because it's not a hugely common bike and in town when I park up it usually gets a look. They kept circling round looking at it, which started made me want to keep looking to make sure they weren't up to no good., they went away and about 10 minutes later came back. I know not to stereotype people but they looked like the sort of people who might be up to no good, so called my supervisor over and pointed them out, he said to keep an eye on them and gave me the number for the police direct line so if they started to steal it I could call for a car to be sent out (the police station is literally less than a quarter mile away)
One of the guys got off his bike and started properly nosing around the bike, looking all over it, rattling the security chain, he then pulled out his mobile, and made a call. While making the call he was looking at my number plate and then tilted his head to read the chassis number, which I found very very disturbing, because thats not something that anyone needs to do. He finished his call and left again. Around half an hour later a van pulled up in the space opposite the bike and the phone guy got out, along with an older guy, probably late 50's. They walked in, and started looking around, I assume for a motorcyclist. They came to the till and asked did I know who owned the bike, so I told them it was me, and he then said how it was his old bike, and he had come with his dad because they were in trouble for riding without tax about 3 years previously and it had been seized (which ties in with it being stored since 2006)
He asked whether it was road legal, to which I said yes, but the tax and insurance run out at the end of the month (in reality MOT is october, tax end of next april, insured until mid april) thinking that he might be looking to steal it and ride it around without attarcting any attention to himself, they then left so I brought the bike into the delivery area out back just in case they came back to put it in the van. That didn't half make the adrenaline pump though!

Just thought I'd share that, and see if any of you would believe his story or whether he was just scouting to see if it would be worth stealing because all the paperwork was there?
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'84 TS50X, '91 TZR125, '89 CBR400RR, '91 VFR400R NC30, '98 R1
"Hey copernicus! Why don't you navigate yourself to the back of the line with your feet and stand there with your shit."
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[FURBAR]

Did you not ask the nosey cunts what they wanted ....
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Fuk um !!

[Ste]

[Billing]

I work near the middle of town, which is a bit rough, so thought it best not to, for fear of getting my head kicked in, they did look like the sort who wouldn't think twice about it, and I'm a 19 year old weed, who wouldn't put up much of a fight, plus if I'd have told them and they DID want to steal it they'd expect me to have the keys with me.
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'84 TS50X, '91 TZR125, '89 CBR400RR, '91 VFR400R NC30, '98 R1
"Hey copernicus! Why don't you navigate yourself to the back of the line with your feet and stand there with your shit."
BCF Eastern members map here ---> g.co/maps/2tm8b PM me to be added to it!

[FURBAR]

Fair play for your honesty ... nearly sigged ...
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Fuk um !!

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[Carl_steveo]

I don't understand why, if it was his old bike, did he come back with a van. Does he feel like he deserves to get it back. If I was you I wouldn't have said it was my bike, just to see what they would do.
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Luke "cant be arsed to read your post, but suck my balls anyway."

[Billing]

I'm not sure either, from what he said he still has the v5, but because it was seized and he couldn't afford the storage charges it was sold on, and worked its way to me. If he wants it back then he can buy it off me for a fair price, his problem he couldn't be bothered to tax it, not mine.
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'84 TS50X, '91 TZR125, '89 CBR400RR, '91 VFR400R NC30, '98 R1
"Hey copernicus! Why don't you navigate yourself to the back of the line with your feet and stand there with your shit."
BCF Eastern members map here ---> g.co/maps/2tm8b PM me to be added to it!

[Pete.]

Firstly - int his situation don't tell anyone anything until you have their name and address. If they don't want to provide it tell them nothing. Make a note of their registration too.

Was the guy trying to make out he was still the legal owner of the bike? Sounds like it.

If he is the legal owner, then you have been sold a stolen bike. Theft is defined as the intention to permanently deprive the owner of their property so if someone has sold it to you knowing they aren't the rightful owner then they have stolen it.

First thing you should do is ascertain your legal right to ownership, so that if you have any further dealings with the guy you know exactly where you stand legally. Quite how you'd go about this I don't know but I'd start with a chat at the desk of the local nick. Just go down and explain to them exactly what's happened and what your legal standpoint is. Quite possibly there is some rule that says if a seized bike isn't claimed within a certain time frame then it can be sold to recover storage costs but you need to clarify exactly where you stand so you have an answer for the guy if he shows his face again.
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a.k.a 'Geri'

132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[Chris750]

The fact that they looked at the chassis number and registration, then asked if it was road legal would make me think they may want to clone it.
They maybe have a silimar nicked bike and they need to put some plates on it so they can ride it about without giving a hit on anpr.

[robbieguy2003]

Sounds a bit twatish, cant say i'd have been as nice or helpful but fair play to you for keeping calm.

As others have said keep an eye on the bike, if he feels wronged or done by the system then he might be after it.

However assuming this was sold out of storage by the police/recovery company it should be legitimate for you. Sounds like a bit of a chancer that i'd be telling to knob off.

As Pete has said, get down to the police and work out your legal position, then you can tell him to knob off or you'll phone the police.
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Current Bikes: Honda CBR 600RR - '07, Suzuki GSX1250 FA ST '11
Old Bikes: Suzuki Intruder 125 LC - '2001, Honda CBR 600F - '92, Honda CBR 600RR - '03

[rac3r]

[yuri2085]

Watch out

[Hazylogic]

Get a cover: out of sight, out of mind. Anyone starts snooping you can tell them to clear off.

[robbieguy2003]

[Grimnir]

Surely if it was seized and then sold on to you it is yours, not them?

[Pete.]

[pepperami]

[Grimnir]

[ollieholt]

i would ring the old bill and report this incident. only because if they do clone your bikes plate or chassis, you can say you reported someone asking questions and snooping around the bike, give them descriptions and possible attain a crime number, insurance companies and the plod like crime numbers. id hate for you to find numerous speeding and parking fines coming through your door. lock it to an immovable object through your frame or get the bus. not worth risking is it? and yes a cover wont go amiss, then if anyone tries twitching it and u spot them you can politelyb tell them to fuck off.
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[Billing]

Police have been made aware that he checked out the frame number and may possibly be cloning the bike. I spent over 2 hours in the station while they made enquiries and took details. Seems I'm all clear as the bike was repossessed by the company when the storage fee's could not be paid by the owner. It was then sold on to recoup some of these costs, and has worked it's way to me. As far as they have figured I'm the legal owner of the bike, and the guy will just have to deal with it.
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'84 TS50X, '91 TZR125, '89 CBR400RR, '91 VFR400R NC30, '98 R1
"Hey copernicus! Why don't you navigate yourself to the back of the line with your feet and stand there with your shit."
BCF Eastern members map here ---> g.co/maps/2tm8b PM me to be added to it!

[Pete.]

Best way to deal with it mate well done!
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a.k.a 'Geri'

132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[owl10]

Make sure you keep the chain on at all times, if he is the genuine past owner who had it repossesed he may have a spare key.....

[Renton]

Have you considered getting an alarm/immobiliser as well?
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