cbt question can i use a bigger bike

[mivster]

im currently riding my 125 on my cbt.

i have a sachs xtc 125 and fancy a change.
ive been offered a fzr 400 which the guy said if i get a rescrictor kit and have it tuned down to 125 performance. ill be legal to ride it on a cbt im unsure but like the idea.
i was hoping to do a restricted access next summer so the thought of using a bigger bike does sound nice just so i can get the feel for a heavier/bigger bike
any ideas if this is correct

ive tried phoning the dvla but never get through
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[Kickstart]

Hi

No, on CBT you can only ride a 125 of up to 11kW. However much you reduce the performance of a larger bike it is still over 125cc so you cannot ride it on a provisional licence.

All the best

Keith
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[Kai.Wilson]

No you can't in short

[Marmalade]

No, definately not

Restricted access = restricted fzr400
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[mivster]

thanks guys
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[MarJay]

Did the person who told you that happen to be the person who was selling the bike perchance?
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[Frost]

Also did he happen to have any magic beans for sale?

[mivster]

he wanted to straight swap it for mine
no magic beans though or i would of had some off him lol
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[Redoko]

Yeah as everyones said, you can't.

Take your test then go for it.
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[kt]

YES you can use a bigger machine provided a sidecar is attached but the horse power must not exceed 14.6 bhp(17 year old), there is no capacity limit in engine size if a sidecar is fitted . Bikes such as Mz 250cc can be used as well as Rotax based 350/500cc with minor restrictions to the output of the engine.

[Redoko]

[kt]

There is NO legal limit on the size of the engine but a legal limit on the horsepower provided a sidecar is fitted, thats the law plain and simple.

[kt]

Redoko, perhaps you would like a run on my learner legal instructors bike, a 500cc jawa (rotax) with chair restricted (not by much) for your driving test.

[Redoko]

[johnsmith222]

[kt]

You can ride a 1500cc goldwing with L plates as long as a sidecar is fitted, thats the law. I am an old (very ) sidecar instuctor and know the law on this matter so yes he can ride any capacity of motorcycle provided a sidecar is attached and the bike does not exceed 14.6 (11kw) bhp. Its pointles to restrict a large bike to 14.6 bhp but the bikes I mentioned earlier are ideal for the job and make up for their lack of power with low down torque to pull a chair, its a loop hole that the dvla forgot about but at the end of the day the performance is much the same.

[kt]

David, you can carry a passenger in N.I in a sidecar with L plates but not in England or Wales, I am unsure about Scotland as regards carrying passengers. I am not trying to be clever here but just stating the facts so no disrespect intended to any of the posters on the tread, its not often an old quy like me (58yrs) can advise or even talk to you young boys.lol

[kt]

David, there are no medical conditions that restrict any rider from taking a test on a sidecar, with respect they require a lot more skill to ride than a fly by wire japanese solo by a long mile.

[Redoko]

Not really sure the point in wanting to restrict a bigger bike anyway, it's a good £100 - £300 to restrict it, you're better off just buying training for your full test.


Just do the restricted test on a 125 and tell the 2 year 33BHP restriction to get fcuked.


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[johnsmith222]

[ian789]

The swerve and stop must be hard with a sidecar

[Flip]

So... being realistic, leaving out the bollocks about side cars and restricting bigger bikes to 11KW = A 125 of up to 11kW is what you need for a CBT.

Which means every post after Keiths was pointless.

[kt]

It doesnt cost anything to restrict a bike as long as you have a bit of paper that says its restricted, just back of the throotle cables so as the bike cant produce its maximum power then its restricted and legally so as long as you can prove it with a document (dyno) its not rocket science and costs nothing to do bar the dyno printout.

[kt]

Flip, forget about horsepower as it is only derived from a torque curve to start with, I ask you about horses and horsepower? .....................question Is a big british shire horse more powerful than a japanese horse or an italian horse, who set the standard, think about it before you answer as japanese horses are a hell of a lot smaller than the british shire horse. Also add into the fiqure the point were manufacturers of motorcycles measure their horsepower then compare Italian, japanese and british horsepower, theres a massive difference.