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Fisty
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Well known bike place trying to rip me off...... Reply with quote

Today I took the TL into have its MOT after being rebuilt from the ground up.
Its had EVERY bearing replaced in it while its been stripped, including swingarm and suspension linkage. Everything has been rebuilt correctly and torqued up to suzuki's specification.

Imagine my supprise when I got advisories on these...

1. Steering head bearings notchy/worn
2. Front wheel bearings have slight play
3. Reear Wheel bearings have slight play
4. Slight play in suspension linkage
5. front brake pads close to limit.

All of the above are brand new and fitted correctly, none have play in or are notchy. In their kindness they gave me a quote to replace all these parts..............................£411.61 including labour.

Im taking the bike for a second opinion at another place tomorrow, and if they agree with me I am rerporting the first place I went to.

Where do these places get off on trying to rip people off?
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice guys finish last an all that, they're just out to make as much money as possible.
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You see its done the opposite, because I wont be using them ever again. So it has made them lose (a very small amount) money in the long run.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes but imagine how many people they've managed to con out of hundreds of pounds in comparison?
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

See i thought steering head bearings notchy was a mot failure anyways, as last time my mot man was checking mine for ages, as i did em up too tight Laughing
Only an advisory but i spose thats not the point is it..
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you not make a point of asking them to show you the play/notchiness etc? Would love to see their faces as you turn the bars left and right saying 'funny, I just replaced those last week' Laughing

Devils advocate, you are good with all this bearing stuff? What happens if the next place says the same? Laughing

Im just thinking if you go in and say 'so and so said this was wrong with it but I dont think it is' surely they are going to agree with you, knowing they will get your buisness next time?

How you going to play it?
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You forgot MOT golden rule #1 that is to only take it to be MOT'd at a place without any workshop facilities. Applies to cars too.



The 50% off an MOT type places are places to avoid as they will always find some fault to get back the 50% and then some.

This means Kwik fit, national speedy etc type places. My MOTs are done at Ged's usually who has no workshop, sometimes speedy because he is trustable and will show you what's up and compare it to a bike that has no problems.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think having a workshop facility has anything to do with it. Ive taken all my bikes to the same place for MOT, as have family members and have all passed without so much as an advisory most of the time.
Its all down to finding a decent tester who is genuine and not looking for faults.
Its easy to find a fault on a vehicle if you really want to. I used to work in a garage so know all the tricks of the trade. If you KNOW the problems dont exist then challenge it and make sure you report any 'blags'.
I despise blaggers, making up work to make cash. A genuine garage will make enough cash off genuine work from a good customer base to not have the need to pick faults out of thin air.
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:


Devils advocate, you are good with all this bearing stuff? What happens if the next place says the same? Laughing

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Im a trained mechanical fitter, have been fitting bearings into various things (motorbikes included) for 12 years now. Never had a problem. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: Well known bike place trying to rip me off...... Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:
Im taking the bike for a second opinion at another place tomorrow, and if they agree with me I am rerporting the first place I went to.

Im a trained mechanical fitter, have been fitting bearings into various things (motorbikes included) for 12 years now. Never had a problem


So why bother with a 2nd opinion then..... Simply report the test station.

While you may have fitted new bearings, it does not rule out, that maybe the spindles are worn and producing play.

One the brake pads if they were new, then you should have said at the time to the tester......
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the mainland m.o.t system needs to be brought in line with the N.I system as it was supposed to have been twenty years ago, I beleive its a lot fairer as the testers are goverment employees and arent there to make money out of people although the testers can be harder on the bikes and cars at times and it can cost a lttle more.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Down side of the NI system is that there tends to be a very long waiting list, and often the only way to get an MOT in a reasonable time is to get the ferry and use a mainland MOT station.

All the best

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PostPosted: 21:52 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all comes down to having an mot tester you can trust. I take mine to a bloke who does bike repairs as well but he is scrupulously honest in his dealings with people.

Im sure its because of this attitude he is never short of work
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rapdude wrote:
Why did you not have it out with them .... Rolling Eyes Question


Because when I got there there was only the lady on the desk. She takes the bookings and phone calls. All the mechanics had gone home.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moral of this story is find a good MOT place where you know they're honest and stick with it. There's an ever increasing number of shysters knocking about these days.
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:
You see its done the opposite, because I wont be using them ever again. So it has made them lose (a very small amount) money in the long run.

Name and shame! Thumbs Up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 01 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grimnir wrote:
mr_fisty wrote:
You see its done the opposite, because I wont be using them ever again. So it has made them lose (a very small amount) money in the long run.

Name and shame! Thumbs Up Very Happy


+1.
Make the pot of lost money bigger Wink (I for one pay very close attention to names and shames)

Only if and when you're sure it's safe to, of course Very Happy
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 02 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:
Rapdude wrote:
Why did you not have it out with them .... Rolling Eyes Question


Because when I got there there was only the lady on the desk. She takes the bookings and phone calls. All the mechanics had gone home.


Ladies are easier to beat...should have made the point very very clear Wink Laughing


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PostPosted: 00:34 - 02 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:


Ladise are easier to beat...should have made the point very very clear Wink Laughing


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PostPosted: 01:03 - 02 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generally i've found that little private garages are alot better than others. My local place which shall not be named will pass almost anything. I've taken things there that i know to be fucked, exhausts that are clearly marked for race use only and all have passed. Just try a different place every time till you find a good one, then keep going back.
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PostPosted: 01:05 - 02 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What company is this exactly?
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PostPosted: 01:28 - 02 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sucks man. Loads of stealers out there. You should have confronted them straight away if you were sure there wasn't a problem.

I found a really good place in the end, and they do have a workshop on site. They even make me a coffee while I wait Laughing
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PostPosted: 06:06 - 02 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about that mate, go rear up!

I also use a small local garage, they passed my KLX300 with no lights besides a front lamp and rear brake light (that doesn't work unless you only use the back brake), no mirrors, no indicators, a straight-pipe exhaust system, no horn, no ignition. Laughing.

They will pass almost anything. Thumbs Up.
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PostPosted: 06:41 - 02 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

All this MOT crap for bikes, makes me glad I live in Holland where bikes don't have to have an MOT (or an APK as we call it here).
When I lived in the UK, I used to go to a guy who would pass anything, never ever went to the big garages as it was asking for trouble.
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