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PostPosted: 21:19 - 04 Jul 2010    Post subject: Legalise Tinted Visors... Add Your Views Reply with quote

Most of us have heard about the Government's website which allows the public to suggest which laws should be repealed. I came across the following topic, campaigning to legalise tinted visors, which I think would make a lot of sense.

https://yourfreedom.hmg.gov.uk/repealing-unnecessary-laws/rather-silly-motorcycle-visor-regulations

Whether the Government will listen is another question, but don't ask, don't get!
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 04 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course it should be repealed, it's an incredulous law.

How they expect it to be 'safer' when I am squinting through a clear visor compared to wide-open eyes with a sunstrip on the top of my iridium tinted visor is beyond me.

Especially when I can wear super dark sunglasses when I'm riding? Confused.

Whilst I understand it is for when you have to ride in the dark (as vision is severely impaired) it is a little silly, just ride with the visor open!

Although I've never heard of anyone be done for having a tinted visor.. Laughing.
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 04 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it was actually guidelines rather than law

i saw on traffic cops or similar a ped boi pulled over at night with tinted visor and got away with just a telling off. Confused
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 04 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wear sunglasses. Problem solved. Unless of course it's about posing, then you'll still want your black visor.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 04 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never been bothered whilst wearing a tinted visor (despite being pulled for other offences quite often), so I really don't think it'd make much difference if the law was repealed. I've never heard of anyone being done for a tinted visor (I appreciate some might of been done but I imagine it's a very. very low percentage of wearers).

It is a stupid law (as it's often safer to ride with a tinted visor IMO), but there are many laws 10x dafter that are never enforced either.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 04 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

if they make those legal. they will have to let all the bad boy racers have their tints and how would the goverment make money then? lol
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 04 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

L4Isoside wrote:
I thought it was actually guidelines rather than law


Has been the law since about 1987 I think (when visors had to become approved, and one of the approval bits was a limit on the level of tint).

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PostPosted: 23:32 - 04 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

gray84 wrote:
if they make those legal. they will have to let all the bad boy racers have their tints and how would the goverment make money then? lol


how many people do you know that have been given tickets for tints or tinted visors?
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 04 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

alot.... i was pulled over the other day in my mates evo and he had to pull them off at the side of the oad or a fine...
their hot on that kind of thing around here
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 04 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

gray84 wrote:
if they make those legal. they will have to let all the bad boy racers have their tints and how would the goverment make money then? lol
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But tinted windows on a car are not something you can remove at the drop of a hat, and it also conceals the occupants of the car.

A visor is no different to a pair of sunglasses, in the way that it can easily be lifted or removed, and i only hides your face; Same as sunglasses hide your face somewhat. It's not like you could identify someone with a lid on anyway.
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 05 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My visor is very tinted (dark smoke) and has a note on saying:

If worn, for daytime use only - so I used to swap it for clear once the street lights came on/sun set.
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 05 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:
gray84 wrote:
if they make those legal. they will have to let all the bad boy racers have their tints and how would the goverment make money then? lol
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But tinted windows on a car are not something you can remove at the drop of a hat, and it also conceals the occupants of the car.

A visor is no different to a pair of sunglasses, in the way that it can easily be lifted or removed, and i only hides your face; Same as sunglasses hide your face somewhat. It's not like you could identify someone with a lid on anyway.


but the law goes together on them. just like you can open the front windows on a car.
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PostPosted: 08:32 - 05 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:
it also conceals the occupants of the car.


Is that illegal? Confused

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PostPosted: 08:34 - 05 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Noxious89123 wrote:
it also conceals the occupants of the car.


Is that illegal? Confused

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PostPosted: 09:57 - 05 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just wear sunglasses. Problem solved. Unless of course it's about posing, then you'll still want your black visor.

The black/tinted visors look the boys bits for sure and they're definately better than clear visors in bright sunlight, especially low level sun.

I have a fairly heavily tinted visor (Shoei CX-1V) which has DAYTIME USE ONLY stamped on it. I sat all my riding tests in this and it was acceptable to the DSA. It's not actually black (you can see it here), but the heavy tint provides excellent protection against the sun.

I believe (don't quote me!!) the law states there is a requirement to allow a certain percentage of natural light through a tint but no requirement to wear a visor at all. If you're pulled over for wearing a tinted visor, and don't have a clear one with you, you can offer to remove it altogether... and erm... pop it back on when out of sight of le police?! Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 05 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

No you do not need a visor (although it could be argued that if you don't then if you are wearing shades / normal glasses then these are eye protection and must comply with the regulations for visors). The police can fine you for a non compliant visor (just most don't bother, seems to normally be reserved for it the rider or the copper are an arse).

As to "Daytime Use Only", not really any legal meaning in the UK just the makers covering themselves. If it doesn't have the required markings (to show that it lets through enough light, is impact resistant, scratch resistant, etc) then it is illegal.

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PostPosted: 12:36 - 05 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of tinted visors, where can I buy a decent one.

Quite like the black ones that are like 1 way mirrored?

EDIT* Forgot to mention would rather not go through eBay if possible?
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 05 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:31 - 05 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

just get a lid with a built in sun shade, there Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

i have one and swear by it. mind u tinted visors do look fecking cool

i think the law is stupid but there ya go, the countrys bloody mad anyway
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 05 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

just become a sikh, they dont have to wear lids in the uk.... im serious
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 05 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:
A visor is no different to a pair of sunglasses...


Wear sunglasses then.
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 05 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:
the stig helmet looks gay as fook with a clear visor.


when it goes dark i ride with it up.


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PostPosted: 15:55 - 05 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Internal flip down sun visors are the way to go surely?
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 05 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never been done for a tinted visor myself, and never known anyone to be done, so meh really.
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 05 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i use inserts so they just come out when need to
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