biker killed by top traffic cop

[steppen22]

Top Norfolk traffic police officer caused death crash

https://www.edp24.co.uk/content/edp24/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=xDefault&itemid=NOED18%20Jun%202010%2018%3A25%3A32%3A800

What a harsh sentence!
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[0l0dom0l0]

thats horrible. It mkes you wonder that even if the best drivers in the country don't see us, then how the bloody hell are the general public going to!

[LeeR]

Even "experts" can be guilty of complacency, it's tragic.
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[pepperami]

It might sound churlish coming from me, as it`s clear in my previous posts that the police are not my favorite people.

but he is allegedly one of thier finest and his job is to investigate and tell others how thier bad driving can/does kill.
he should be beyond reproach and 110% switched on when he`s driving himself.
if he cannot do that then he is not the man for the job.
the fact that he has killed someone proves the he is not up to the job.

Sack him!
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[hondapartsman]

He is a man who has done much good work, by the sound of it, he has been punished more than enough for one momentary lapse which can happen to us all. No, it's done now and he'll do his community service no doubt and carry on, I hope, with his work. None of us are infallible. I know I make myself unpopular by saying so but much of the time but if you get pulled out on it's always, in my eyes, partly down to you if you get hit. Really? Yes, I partly blame myself for the one time I t boned someone who pulled out, I saw him, I should have slowed down and been ready to avoid, I usually am and that's saved me many a time. There is no real excuse for not seeing someone, anyone, but there's no substitute for assuming that they're all out to get you and riding accordingly.
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The fact that this sort of person who gets to help give people serious punishments and no doubt in other cases lecturers people on the dangers of their driving suggests to me that perhaps he should be treated even more harshly because he IS aware of the dangers of what he was doing.

[Luke_Retrofly]

I hate they way thar article bangs on about the "poor" coppper who will have to live with this for the rest of his life, blah blah blah.

What about the person he killed and their family/friends? No one gives a shit about them, but as long as they can make the copper feel better after this accident then everythigns ok
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[Keir]

should the training he's had make him accident proof? Is any amount of training enough to stop every accident every time?

I know i dont always see bikes and i ride one every day. i find it hard to judge him for something that appears a genuine accident, its not like he was taking any risks.

Just a sad incident all round for all concerned.
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[ollieholt]

dont people who are proffesionals that cause deaths through gross neglegence get jailed? thats how i see this one. his training of police driving should mean he doesnt miss bikers, the extra checks before moving etc. this was gross neglegence...

thoughts to the bikers family...

horrible tradgedy, horrible to hear. there seems to be a death reported daily, its a bit scary.
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[2wheelsteve]

Assume NOBODY has seen you, assume you are INVISIBLE, put yourself in the best place to be seen in the road and good luck cause we all need it

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[ollieholt]

no matter what you and i do when were out, which are good tips btw, this chap that has died was not at fault, the copper was showing gross neglegence as he is a PROFFESIONAL driver and has been for year. yes we all make mistakes but when you dont do your JOB right and it ends in a death then a slap on the wrist is no good. oh poor copper blah blah blah, yes fine he will have to live with it for teh rest of his life, maybe he will look twice next time.

this poor guys family must be in bits, and teh fact taht teh police are doing as tehy always do, sticking together makes this even worse for em.

RIP
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[Bladey]

personally i think the blame also lies with the motorcyclist.. firstly.. How fast was he riding, the copper didnt turn into a motorway!...Secondly.. i ALWAYS slow down and am extremely weary when approaching a junction...Even if it my right of way.. I've already had one very bad experience..rather never repeat it!

Its easy to say "Sack him".. but he might be the very same guy who has arrested someone for drink driving...that could've gone on to killing a loved one!

Im 42... have a reasonably fast bike.. and only push it when its safe... i dont wana be on the floor groaning like a wet pussy coz i rode like a dick!
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[Nicky-Jano]

This is happening quite a lot this summer.
My sisters boyfriend's father was killed my a copper while on his bike a few months back.
I think the police got away with it also, despite numerous witnesses that the biker in question had done nothing wrong, just human error on the police mans part apparently...

[ollieholt]

human error... hmmm

yeh another lad is in intensive because of a panda car pulling out on his 125 from a side street, no blue an two's just pulled striaght out, he wasnt speeding but ended up wedged between a lampost and a drystone wall, his helmet was stuck fast, had to remove him from it for fear of breaking his necky trying to unstick the helmet whilst he was in it...

pisses me off, these people are proffesionals, you cant anchor on whenever you feel a car might want to do a menuveur, i agree after a non fault t bone incident that happened to me years ago, that as bikers we have a responability to ourselves to be cautious of fuck tards in cars, 'no they havent seen me' is how i always think. this doesnt excuse the copper who hit the guy...

i get the point that this guy may have saved lives in the past and go on to do more good, im sure he will. but surely just because a doctor fucks up once and kills a guy, gets sent to prison etc etc, that doctor could have saved more life if he wasnt sent down for neglagence, does that make him exempt then?? i think not...
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[FURBAR]

Well that's Essex Police for you ... Inbred they be ...
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[Adamantis]

I had a colleague who was given a 30 month ban for drink driving. He had gotten na train back to Milton Keynes, got as far as the roundabout at the carpark exit, decided he was too drunk to drive, and was parking up again when he gotpulled.

The reason he was sentenced so "harshly"? He was employed by HMPS, and therefore "should have known better"!

But a copper kills someone, gets a 12 month ban and a comm. order? I've had roadroage boys done for a damnsight more than that. Once rule for one, etc.
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[arry]

[bikertomm]

Sad story,

But hey I guess that's the risk we take, gotta stop thinking about all the horror storys, blimin' cagers!

Ride safe
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