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PostPosted: 13:24 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Obama needs a 9/11 event to survive politically... Reply with quote

“The bottom line here is that Americans don’t believe in President Obama’s leadership,” says Rob Shapiro, another former Clinton official and a supporter of Mr Obama. “He has to find some way between now and November of demonstrating that he is a leader who can command confidence and, short of a 9/11 event or an Oklahoma City bombing, I can’t think of how he could do that.”

Hmm, approval ratings going down? Perhaps now would be an opportune moment for Al-CIAda and those pesky Muslim extremists to rear their ugly head again in good ol' Amerika.

Wasn't it Bush's approval ratings that skyrocketed from rockbottom after 9/11?

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PostPosted: 13:42 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you think he is jumping up and down on BP?
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

He isn't, you're believing the illusion again. The BP spill serves the Carbon Credit/Tax agenda. The sheep wont notice the difference between Global Warming, "Climate Change" or massive oil spill, it's all to help the environment.

Kris, I thought about posting this when I read it, but it's usually dismissed so not worth bothering.

Considering the "recovery" is an illusion at the cliff edge of economic collapse, the Wall St/London Mafia do need a massive war to keep the economic machine going and the serfs noses to the grindstone. We are likely another "October Surprise", and this one will ironically involve Iran too, this time as the scapegoat to precipitate invasion.

A mate of mine says if they go in he's going back to fight, "In my country we have 8 million partizan", tho funnily enough he recently got his UK passport and he doesnt like Ahmadinejad either.

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PostPosted: 21:21 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done A2 Politics, you can't name me a recent President (last century) that wasn't hated for some reason.

Literally all Presidents leave office hated. American Presidents can only serve 2 terms.

Bush's opinion ratings soared to around 80-90%. But then plummeted to events such as Katrina.

JFK doesn't count because he was killed before the end of his term.

It's tradition embedded into society that past politicians are looked at more kindly as time passes on.

I do agree with your statement about a President needing to combat a significant event in order to be remembered. However Presidents put forward suggestions for Supreme Court Judges, this is seen as a higher honour than combating an event of a large scale. Supreme Court Judges have no life time, they are seen effectively as carrying on the Presidents agenda. Problem is, a Supreme Court might not (they're 9 of them) retire or die for, longest period was 11 years recently.

Obama came in portrayed by the media as some kind of saviour.

If you actually look at the voting statistics he didn't win by a landslide.

If I was Obama I would be more worried about becoming a 1 term President than a significant event.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redoko wrote:
I've done A2 Politics, you can't name me a recent President (last century) that wasn't hated for some reason.

Literally all Presidents leave office hated. American Presidents can only serve 2 terms.



You failed miserably then.

THHGTTG is much more succinct on presidents and their function.

Presidents are to act as a mere figure head with limited powers, they serve to deflect attention to the places where the REAL power lies.

Blair for instance was under orders of the banks, or do you think he got his $1mil job at the bank because he was good looking? He also got an oil contract work 2 mil because the south Korean company pulled his strings.

I mean look at it, 800bn USD was given to the banks because they asked for it.

£200bn in the UK was given to UK banks because they asked for it.

1 million people said no to Iraq, and nowt happened. Follow the money it always works.
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redoko wrote:
I've done A2 Politics, you can't name me a recent President (last century) that wasn't hated for some reason.

Literally all Presidents leave office hated. American Presidents can only serve 2 terms.



Blimey, i didn't realise there was an person educated to A level grade on this forum, let's not bother debating anymore, let's just ask Redoko - he's done A2 politics, he must, therefore, always be right.
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What about FDR? He was into his 3rd term when he died.
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:19 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

GhostRider wrote:
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Did you mean to type "Redoko"?

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PostPosted: 12:07 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Original Muzza wrote:
GhostRider wrote:
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Did you mean to type "Redoko"?

Laughing If you did I may never stop laughing at you.


Nah it just wanted me to write something before it would let me attach anything, and since I have an annoying habit of writing my username after every post, I just put that.

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PostPosted: 14:09 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ You're right - it is annoying.

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PostPosted: 15:32 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:
Redoko wrote:
I've done A2 Politics, you can't name me a recent President (last century) that wasn't hated for some reason.

Literally all Presidents leave office hated. American Presidents can only serve 2 terms.



Blimey, i didn't realise there was an person educated to A level grade on this forum, let's not bother debating anymore, let's just ask Redoko - he's done A2 politics, he must, therefore, always be right.
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What about FDR? He was into his 3rd term when he died.


It depends on who's looking back at his 'success' as a President.

Roosevelt only succeeded in because it was War time. Critics are shunned in America for not being patriotic, they're a lot more patriotic country than we.

It was tradition set forward by Washington to only serve two terms, he could of served more, but decided to step down, thus making it expected of all Presidents.

It was passed into legislation that a President can only serve two terms in 1951.

Again to my previous post, he died before he could finish his 'reign'.

People forget the debt he mounted up.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Debt1929-50.svg/450px-Debt1929-50.svg.png
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 17 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wrote something that they think makes them look in the know, but fails on an epic level


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PostPosted: 01:07 - 19 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redoko wrote:

It depends on who's looking back at his 'success' as a President.

Roosevelt only succeeded in because it was War time. Critics are shunned in America for not being patriotic, they're a lot more patriotic country than we.

It was tradition set forward by Washington to only serve two terms, he could of served more, but decided to step down, thus making it expected of all Presidents.

It was passed into legislation that a President can only serve two terms in 1951.

Again to my previous post, he died before he could finish his 'reign'.

People forget the debt he mounted up.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Debt1929-50.svg/450px-Debt1929-50.svg.png


You do know america was the only country to come out of world war 2 in profit? and by 1950 was the richest country in the world growing its per capita output over two percent annually with the rest of the world playing catch up.

Now you could lay a lot of this at trumans feet but it was rossevelt who laid the seeds of industry into which america became a superpower.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:

Presidents are to act as a mere figure head with limited powers, they serve to deflect attention to the places where the REAL power lies.


been reading HHGttG? Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

lukamon wrote:
been reading HHGttG? Laughing


Shithouse rat syndrome strikes again...

Itchy wrote:
THHGTTG is much more succinct on presidents and their function.

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PostPosted: 13:44 - 21 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obama does seem to be latching onto any and everything in order to seem statesmanly and erm, just manly. The latest thing being the release of Al Megrahi.

Lots of Scots up in arms about Cameron actively critisizing the release when perhaps he should've given no comment and just pointed out it was a devolved issue and if you disagreed, you'd need to talk to an MSP.

That and the BP thing... Obviously the US press have a lot to do with it, the president reacts to what ever is popular and the rpess react to whatever they think will increase viewers/sales. Is the Britain (probably actually just England just now) so popular in the US that having a decent shmooze with Cameron is going to increase support for Obama?

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