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PostPosted: 08:34 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: does anybody commute on the motorway on a 125? Reply with quote

as per title, anybody do it regualry as I am just a little concerened the top speed is about 65-70mph with no overtaking power left.
I don't plan to buy a bigger bike just yet, trying to save for it etc.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do on the A13 which is basically a motorway - NSL, 3 lanes but no hard shoulder. I have also done the M25 and M11 a few times. I don't get why people are so terrified of going on motorways/NSL roads on 125's. In my experience, I have more trouble on urban roads with blind drivers etc. Just stay on the inside lane with the trucks, and if you're lucky, get behind one in the slipstream so you save some petrol! I think it's just a case of accepting you're not part of the faster moving traffic and adapting your riding to suit that fact. Plus, when there's a jam, your 125 does what it's best at and becomes a killer filtering machine! Squeeze through the gaps that bigger bikes can't! Win!
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lack of speed isn't really a problem, as above you just need to know your limitations.

A lot of vehicles on the motorway can't travel any faster than you - most of the trucks, landrovers, caravans etc are all barely able to top 60mph.
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rode my other half's YBR back from London via the motorway (not ridden a bike with less than 100bhp for years) and it was a lot of fun, riding at full throttle, planning each overtake several minutes in advance. It's not what 125s were built for but you won't get eaten alive.

Now, watching folks riding 50cc peds in the gutter of a 60mph road - that terrifies me.
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did it a few times after passing; didn't like it. It's not the natural habitat of a 125. If there's a parallel road A road, you might be surprised how little extra time using it takes - and it'll be a lot more fun.

If you do go for it, get used to riding at 56mph with the lorries a lot of the time...
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't be a problem. Just find a lorry doing 60 ish. Overtake him and stay in front of him.
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, but I used to do it on my Enfield, which has the same performance. Find a lorry that's doing 60 and stay behind him, NOT in front of him, and enjoy the mpg benefits of slipstreaming.
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,
I cant do motorways but i'm guessing your talking about big fast roads anywho...

Having to ride from cambridge to luton i end up spending a lot of time on dual carridge ways (A-roads) and find this can be just as bad really.

Firstly i never felt very confident in the import bike i was on (it was a sitty up enduro which made life worse), the bike would be revving like crazy at 10k around 60-65 but would only make it there downhil or on a flat in Perfect conditions...

I gave up and got an NSR because there are many hills on my rout and i absoloutly hated riding home as most hills would cut me back down to 45-50 Neutral
maybe it was just a poor import 4t 125...

Anywho, if we'r talking 2t, i'm a lot happier, can keep up with the traffic and the NSR should be plenty capable on a motorway derestricted (but still no 600 lol).

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PostPosted: 11:08 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok cheers for the response people, I guess Im just use to doing 80 - 90 ish in the car.

65mph on the 125 is fine but as soon as it starts to touch 70 it vibrates like hell!
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to ride on the motorway on my CG125 every day.

Nothing wrong with it as long as you stay at around 50 or 55mph. You don't want to be wringing it's neck.
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

used to do it regular along the M8 near glasgow on a geared bike and a twist and go scooter.

i can echo a lot of the comments above.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did M3 and M25 while delivering my sisters bike to her in Harlow from Cornwall.

I managed fine, it would have been nicer if I had working indies though, the switch had somehow jammed earlier on the A303 so I pulled out the relay to stop permanent right signalling.

Hand signals didn't work so good when overtaking as of course, as soon as the throttle was released speed would plummet.

Still, not too bad.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to do a stretch of the A40 everyday thats national limit and motorway size. Hasnt botherd me so far but I am a slow rider Smile
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have done midwales to newquay cornwall a few times on the vara 125.quite happy at 65 most of the way.no probs at all .just be wary whats around you
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

When ever I'm on a "motorway" - actual or three lane NSL A road - I often hit trucks and caravans going 56MPH which I'm forced to overtake at 65MPH before settling back in to the slow lane, or sometimes just the middle lane. It's not a problem. If I'm not in a hurry to get anywhere then settling for the caravan speed (even if there are none of them around) is probably best to be honest, great for fuel economy.

The only thing I would be concerned about is maintenance, good oil, chain tension and lubrication, inflated tires and working brakes!
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: does anybody commute on the motorway on a 125? Reply with quote

I never liked it - a 2 stroke sports you'd be ok, but not on a 4 stroke.

Surely having a 2009 bike your bike must still be worth more than you could get a reasonable bigger bike for?
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

As said, plenty of traffic on the M-Way cant go 70 anyway. Trucks I think are supposed to be governed at 56mph, and err.... yeah, as an impoverished student I used to enjoy doing the M6-M5 run from Manchester to Plymouth for about £3, thanks to the slip-stream!
Brave..... but foolish... but it works!
Big-bike, it's not SO bad you can up the pace, and you do have a bit more mass under you to damp out the buffeting side-winds and stuff. Passing trucks on long hils on a 125 is an act of faith!
You get it wound up, move to the middle lane, hit the turbulance off the back, and swerve accorss the lane and back again, then CRAWL past, as you aren't going that much faster than the lorry, AND struggling up the same hill he is, with ANOTHER artic up your chuff... THEN hit the wake off his bow!
To be honest, I dont really like the M-Way on teh bike at ALL, and the elevated sections of M6 and M5 round us.... well, I've riden smoother trials courses!
NOT nice, stuck up in a cross wind, banked over, fighting truck furrows AND banding in the pouring rain, as well as contending with the psycotic comuters in cars.
I mean I've been in a two-ton Range-rover and had cars calving accross my bows when they have come off or spotted an exit... and you would have thought that a two-ton shed on wheels traveling at 70mph with an iron five bar gate on the front MIGHT just get noticed AND give them pause before jumping in its path.....
Talking to artic drivers, aparently NOT!
Rather take the A-Roads almost every time; CERTAINLY at commuting time, when they are half asleep!
BUT, if you are brave enough, certainly no reason why you shouldn't or couldn't, and I have to give credit to a lad I see quite often on the M6 risking the wrath of the Brummie commuters on a I hate to admit this on an open forum...... a very nice ........ Lambretta........ There are folk that do it regularly, and I guess its needs must or what you get used to. NOT having to do the peak-period-parry for a long while, has made me wonder a bit, when I've found myself in it, whether its could REALLY have got SO bad so quick, or if its ALWAYS been that bad, but I just got used to it.... but either way, from a non-comuting perspective, I dont envy you the prospect in ANY vehicle, on ANY road, in ANY way.
But, answering Q. If you have the confidence, give it a go.
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: does anybody commute on the motorway on a 125? Reply with quote

G wrote:
I never liked it - a 2 stroke sports you'd be ok, but not on a 4 stroke.

Surely having a 2009 bike your bike must still be worth more than you could get a reasonable bigger bike for?


I've looked into this option and I can proberbly get £1500 ish for my bike. The reason why I havnet bought one yet is mainly insurance.
2000 + models for a 600cc is between £800 - £1500 FC.

The usual suspects -

SV650
CBR600F
Bandits
Hornets etc

EDIT - BTW the cheapest quote I could get for my 125 FC is £450
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: does anybody commute on the motorway on a 125? Reply with quote

Why would you go Fully Comp?

Even claiming on your current bike, unless it's pretty much a total loss, I expect you may well lose a fair bit more money in high premiums over the next few years than how much it'd cost to fix your bike.
So I'd go TPO or TPFT on a bigger bike.
FC and TPFT are for people rich enough to afford the higher premiums when they make a claim Smile.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: does anybody commute on the motorway on a 125? Reply with quote

G wrote:

FC and TPFT are for people rich enough to afford the higher premiums when they make a claim Smile.


Laughing I like to go FC mainly to get NCB. I've been driving for 8 years and I still cannot insure my car FC because the premium is so high.

At the momment im a name driver on our car (pug 207) and with the wifes 7 years NCB it still cost 500 quid to insure!

So my plan is to rack up some NCB before venturing to bigger and better things.
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: does anybody commute on the motorway on a 125? Reply with quote

locked wrote:
G wrote:

FC and TPFT are for people rich enough to afford the higher premiums when they make a claim Smile.


Laughing I like to go FC mainly to get NCB. I've been driving for 8 years and I still cannot insure my car FC because the premium is so high.

At the momment im a name driver on our car (pug 207) and with the wifes 7 years NCB it still cost 500 quid to insure!

So my plan is to rack up some NCB before venturing to bigger and better things.


I don't understand. I have TPO insurance and I have 2 years NCB?
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frequently on my RXS, but I wouldn't recommend it. I have 20 years experience of doing it, though Laughing I try to avoid motorways where possible. The main problem is nearly everyone doing 90 and more. If people did 70, I would almost be able to keep up lol
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: does anybody commute on the motorway on a 125? Reply with quote

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Laughing I like to go FC mainly to get NCB. I've been driving for 8 years and I still cannot insure my car FC because the premium is so high.


You don't need to be fully comp to get NCD and I may have misunderstood you but your bike NCD can't be used on your car anyway.

Regardless, there are loads of big bikes that will be as cheap to insure as your 125 I reckon, I just bought a CB-1 for peanuts that is the same to insure as a 125 supermoto I had last year. In fact I had a Bros 400 alongside the 125 and that was cheaper to insure I seem to recall Confused


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PostPosted: 19:35 - 16 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: does anybody commute on the motorway on a 125? Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:


I don't understand. I have TPO insurance and I have 2 years NCB?

I've been driving for 8 years as named driver therefore I cannot earn NCB
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