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PostPosted: 22:33 - 18 Jul 2010    Post subject: It's another 'What Car?' thread.... Reply with quote

It's looking likely that i'm going to need to change my car soon-ish; nowt wrong with my current vehicle (MK2 MR2), but i might need to start running the kids to school, so i'll need more than just 2 seats.

Here's my list of requirements:

Must have 4 seats
(3 doors perfectly acceptable)

Must be RWD
(or possibly AWD)

Must have an NA engine
(Don't like turbos)

Must suit my 'enthusiastic' driving requirements.

Budget circa £2.5K

Based on that 'wish list', i'm racking my brains to come up with something other than the obvious - 3 series BMW.

Any other ideas??

As i seem to have no other real options, i've been investigating the beemers a little, and have come up with another quandry:

E30 vs E36

(most likely 325 E30 vs 325 or 328 E36)

I love the E30 shape, although the interior is a little dated, the E36 looks a little overweight and possibly sluggish. I'm very taken by the E36 M3, but it's a little bit above my budget.

Next stage is to test drive a few, but was wondering if the BCF brainbox had any thoughts as to which is the better 'drivers' car.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 18 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

96' 5 series? Lovely interior & look like a great drive, although a bit big. Seem to do pretty beefy engines too.

[EDIT] Forgot about the turbos. Laughing

So the 5 series.


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PostPosted: 22:51 - 18 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find a good E34 if you prefer the older shapes. But to be realistic I'd go for a non turbo Subaru Legacy. Although you want a car to suit a spirited driving style, and don't like turbos. There is always a V8 E34. Fap fap fap. I love E34s. It is naturally aspirated also.
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 18 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

300zx
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legacy
most mercs (except a and b series)
Altezza
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 19 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The e34 was a very well made car, I loved mine, but be aware that they're all long in the tooth.

As a heavy car, they eat their suspension and front brakes, and they need a big engine (avoid anything less than 2.5). Avoid metric wheels (super expensive yet rubbish TRX tyres).

But they can be a superb bargain.

The later e39 have better interiors, but not as cool looking externally. They are very good to drive, the 3.0 petrol and diesels are best.

But e34 and e39 have poor water cooling parts, impellors, hoses and expansion tanks are prone to failure. Overheating can lead to splitting of the radiator.

Both cars were the best executive car you could buy at the time.
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 19 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im biased..

RWD/NA/"4" seats/enthusiastic driving.

Toyota Supra....

I picked my 3litre twin up for £2880.

Pistonheads is a good place to look for these cars, exactly where i found mine Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 19 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

could easily get a c180 or c220 for that money.
Theres even a standard supercharged version but i cant remember what it is.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 19 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
could easily get a c180 or c220 for that money.


I had a c180 as a "courtesy" car once. It didn't suit my enthusiastic driving style at all. I was actually holding up traffic on moderate gradients.

3-series is the obvious choice here. I had an e34 525i manual which I loved but these days an e34 has so little value that any breakdown will effectively cost more to fix than the car is worth.

In your position I'd find a nice e36 with the 2.5 straight-six in it. You'd get a newer, more reliable Legacy for the same money though.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 19 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah the 180's are slow as farkk but get a blacked out one and you look like a mother fucking p i m p
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 19 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will provide the vindication you seek. The E30 325i Sport is a fantastic drivers car, and better than any E36 I've driven (I've not driven a 328i or M3). They feel raw and lithe (can't believe I just said that but it's true). Decent unmolested examples are becoming rare, but if you find a decent one you won't have to worry about depreciation (when you decide to swap it for an E30 M3 Drooling ).

Not driven an E34, but the E39 is also a cracking car, but if your looking for something to offer similar handling to the Tomato then a 3 Series will be the obvious choice.

Old Mercs are best suited to the elderly IMO. I've driven loads of 90s Mercs (from W124s to W140s) and none of them provided any thrills whatsoever, totally boring (the very obtrusive TC can't be turned off on most) and the hand (foot) brake is a pain on manual models.
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 19 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly a long shot, but what about a Vauxhall Omega MV6?

Fits all of your requirements and you could get a late low mileage 2003 model for your budget.

Plus the police use them, so there not bad cars.
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Im biased..

RWD/NA/"4" seats/enthusiastic driving.

Toyota Supra....

I picked my 3litre twin up for £2880.

Pistonheads is a good place to look for these cars, exactly where i found mine Laughing


out of curiousity how much was insurance for one? i cant get anything good at 23 Sad
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PostPosted: 06:49 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is200/Altezza. Even more so if you can ge the 3litre beams engined model!
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some good suggestions so far chaps, keep them coming.
Equally, some fairly shit suggestions - please stop with them.

Best non-BMW suggestion so far has to be from hmmmmnz with the 300ZX - i'd always thought these were just a 2-seater, but seen they do a 2+2 model.
The 300ZX got me thinking about the Mitsubishi GTO/3000GT too, they've been added to my potential list too.

Soul Trader gets points for suggesting the E34 V8s - there's a few 4 litre variants up for dirt cheap near me. I like my carbon footprint as large as possible, and a massive engine like that may go some way towards making up for my tiny and insignificant penis.

So, the list so far:
E30 325i
E36 325i
E36 328i
300ZX
GTO
Various 5'series, especially the V engined. There's even a nice looking M5 going relatively cheap near me too.

Any others for the list?

Next question, what do you reckon my current steed is worth?

1998 MR2 (Rev4) SW20 NA G-Ltd, tin-top, JDM import (with LSD and climate control). Unusual/rare yellow paint (which is a bit faded and patchy in places), mechanically sound though. Currently on shitty 17" multi-shit alloys, but also have a set of original 15" wheels (rattle can paint job into black)

https://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj243/Andy_B_photos/1.jpg

£1000? £1250? £1500?
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a Passat 2.8 V6 4motion? Post 2001.

Might be a bit dull for your liking but something else to consider Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damz wrote:
##Paddy## wrote:
Im biased..

RWD/NA/"4" seats/enthusiastic driving.

Toyota Supra....

I picked my 3litre twin up for £2880.

Pistonheads is a good place to look for these cars, exactly where i found mine Laughing


out of curiousity how much was insurance for one? i cant get anything good at 23 Sad


1500 fully comp with elephant mate.

Is my recommendation shit then?? Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's scary how much the twin turbo Supras still sell for. Always wanted to sit in a Supra, the cockpit looks huge.

Not sure i could own cars like the Supra/Skyline, they're huge. Bigger then your average saloon?
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:


1500 fully comp with elephant mate.

Is my recommendation shit then?? Laughing


aweeeeeeeesooooome i get it for £1281!! (for an sz)

if you want cheap insurance put a girl on the policy lol, gone down nearly a £600

now the tricky bit, trying to get her to go along with the idea of getting a supra now....

odly enough if i can get my hands on a uk spec twin turbo one the insurance is only £800 which is rather odd as it is the most powerful version
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:


1500 fully comp with elephant mate.

Is my recommendation shit then?? Laughing


Fuck me! I get quotes of around the £400 mark for high-group cars - one of the few benefits of being old(ish) i guess.

For example £350 FC for a 328i, £100 more for an M3. Grp19 300zeds would set me back about the same.

Not that big a fan of the Sooopraaaaah, finding an 'un-barried' one (for the right price) is fairly difficult too - their appeal seems to be in willy-waving horsepowah from the Tubbies, and as i'm not a big fan of Tubbs they leave me a bit cold.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
It's scary how much the twin turbo Supras still sell for. Always wanted to sit in a Supra, the cockpit looks huge.


It is.. it goes around you like a spacecraft Laughing

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Not sure i could own cars like the Supra/Skyline, they're huge. Bigger then your average saloon?


My previous car was a Rover 75... so thats large, the Supra isnt bad, although if you glance in the rear window...the spoiler makes it look like you have a car right up your arse Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fuck me! I get quotes of around the £400 mark for high-group cars - one of the few benefits of being old(ish) i guess.

For example £350 FC for a 328i, £100 more for an M3. Grp19 300zeds would set me back about the same.

Not that big a fan of the Sooopraaaaah, finding an 'un-barried' one (for the right price) is fairly difficult too - their appeal seems to be in willy-waving horsepowah from the Tubbies, and as i'm not a big fan of Tubbs they leave me a bit cold.


I bought the Supra, cos it was fairly cheap, goes fast enough for me.
Insurance is better on that than a scooby, but I can insure a Noble M12 for the same price Laughing

I insured it when I was 21, 2 years no claims. I dont think 1500 is too bad for a guy my age.
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Misc wrote:
It's scary how much the twin turbo Supras still sell for. Always wanted to sit in a Supra, the cockpit looks huge.


It is.. it goes around you like a spacecraft Laughing

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Not sure i could own cars like the Supra/Skyline, they're huge. Bigger then your average saloon?


My previous car was a Rover 75... so thats large, the Supra isnt bad, although if you glance in the rear window...the spoiler makes it look like you have a car right up your arse Laughing


Yeah the Japs had some crazy interiors in the 90s, some of the best too. Favorite has to be the 3000GT, for a car as old as that, the interior is pretty modern with loads of gadgets. I had the Mk2 MR2 which is a brilliant driving position but the inside of the car feels so old & the dash lights are poor.

Have you driven the Supra TT? I went in my first turbo a year or so ago, twas a MR2 turbo, great fun.
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:


Yeah the Japs had some crazy interiors in the 90s, some of the best too. Favorite has to be the 3000GT, for a car as old as that, the interior is pretty modern with loads of gadgets. I had the Mk2 MR2 which is a brilliant driving position but the inside of the car feels so old & the dash lights are poor.



The 300zx has an especially space-age cockpit looking interior:


https://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/nissan-sports-cars-4.jpg

https://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/3840/1441/22098220025_large.jpg

and the GTO:

https://www.hightechmarketing.com/spyder/gallery_jeffs_spyder_files/interior.jpg

What does surprise me is how many of these type of cars are fitted with an auto box - wtf is the point of mating a 200-300bhp 3.0 V6 engine with an auto transmission??
I'm guessing it's a Jap thing: small, densely populated islands = plenty of traffic congestion, consequently they'd probably end up with left legs like tree trunks!
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:
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Yeah the Japs had some crazy interiors in the 90s, some of the best too. Favorite has to be the 3000GT, for a car as old as that, the interior is pretty modern with loads of gadgets. I had the Mk2 MR2 which is a brilliant driving position but the inside of the car feels so old & the dash lights are poor.



The 300zx has an especially space-age cockpit looking interior:


https://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/nissan-sports-cars-4.jpg

https://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/3840/1441/22098220025_large.jpg

and the GTO:

https://www.hightechmarketing.com/spyder/gallery_jeffs_spyder_files/interior.jpg

What does surprise me is how many of these type of cars are fitted with an auto box - wtf is the point of mating a 200-300bhp 3.0 V6 engine with an auto transmission??
I'm guessing it's a Jap thing: small, densely populated islands = plenty of traffic congestion, consequently they'd probably end up with left legs like tree trunks!


The 300zx has a nice interior, very stylish. Also loving the carpet around the trim. Smile Really do like the GTO tho, looks very comfortable & warming, something i i find important (my MK3 Golf didn't have this Razz). Not seen what they're like at night.

Did you see that Top Gear episode with the 300zx? May be of interest if you add it to the list of potential cars. There's also one with the GTO which they compare with the RX-7.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 20 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:

The 300zx has a nice interior, very stylish. Also loving the carpet around the trim. Smile Really do like the GTO tho, looks very comfortable & warming, something i i find important (my MK3 Golf didn't have this Razz). Not seen what they're like at night.

Did you see that Top Gear episode with the 300zx? May be of interest if you add it to the list of potential cars. There's also one with the GTO which they compare with the RX-7.


The Zed has another nice touch - door mounted seatbelts.

What's putting me off the GTO is the sheer amount of gadgetry on them - AWD, 4-wheel steer, electronic suspension control. On a 20 year old car it's just a little too much tech to go wrong - i don't want to end up locked into a 'comfort' suspension setting and have to shell out a fortune to replace parts.
I'm quite tempted to put aside my (relatively irrational) dislike of Tubbies and test a tubbed Zed as well as a NA engine - the 100BHP difference does appeal to me quite an amount. Again, on a 20 year old car i don't want to be shelling out loads to replace fragile turbo parts.
The E30 looks very tempting, old tech that i'd be more comfortable spannering on, although IMHO German parts do tend to be a little pricey.
Still, all cars of that age are going to be a bit of a lottery and even a good inspection can only tell so much....
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