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neatbik
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 14 Jul 2010    Post subject: Salisbury plain Reply with quote

Seeing as my Wales trip went tits up, i'm thinking of hitting Salisbury plain early next week.
Tomorrow i'm off to buy an OS map of the area, but thought i would ask anyone here for any reccomended routes.

Also, any good (bike friendly) campsites in the area?
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Re: Salisbury plain Reply with quote

I presume you're talking off-roading?

For camping, I'd say just wild camp personally.

Bing now have OS maps by the way.

Not sure your plans, but if you're not stuck on doing it solo, I've been meaning to get out for some mid-week dirtyness and have the time right now, so could be interested.

Haven't got specific routes, but do have GPS with memory map maps etc.
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PostPosted: 08:30 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off roading was what i had in mind G.

Im heading down with a friend, the plan is to arrive in the area (hopefully) monday lunchtime/early afternoon, and head back home on Wednesday.

Its not 100% certain yet as my wife has been ill, but hopefully she will be well enough for me to do a bunk by then!

More the merrier as far as im concerned, so we would be more than happy to meet up with you for a play in the mud Very Happy
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to make sure you stick to the 'green lanes' across the Plain, as the military have Wardens who patrol and will take your plate details if you stray onto military land, even in error.

There have been 'exercises' up there all this week, in fact a lot of the past month. If the red flags are flying then you are not allowed to pass them, even to use normally permitted byways.

Best map IMHO is the pink Landranger 184 - enjoy, it's great fun up there! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:54 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonka wrote:
You need to make sure you stick to the 'green lanes' across the Plain, as the military have Wardens who patrol and will take your plate details if you stray onto military land, even in error.

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PostPosted: 10:13 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Tonka wrote:
You need to make sure you stick to the 'green lanes' across the Plain, as the military have Wardens who patrol and will take your plate details if you stray onto military land, even in error.

Thumbs Down How long's that been going on?


Certainly as long as I've been greenlaning which is a just over a year now. I also ride with an Army Club and it's certainly always been clearly pointed out to us that this is the case. You're on private military land, so not permitted to just 'wing' it across it 'willy nilly.' You're only allowed on the permitted crossings.

It's always going to be the same thing though - some spoil it for others and then there will be a crack down. I have been stopped by a Warden (in fact nearly killed by him in his Landy) for alledgedly passing red flags which we hadn't seen (they weren't up on the route we'd come through), guy went beserk, as it's a major safety breach, but he was more concerned with securing the area than taking our plates which was lucky for us. You can get nice polite Wardens, but they do have bad days!

TBH the whole Plain is absolutely covered in Byeways, so there really is no excuse for just forging your own way wherever you choose. I've got the map out right here and it's covered in bright green highlighter!!

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PostPosted: 11:05 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonka wrote:

It's always going to be the same thing though - some spoil it for others and then there will be a crack down.


Yeah, when we went up there, we bumped into a warden who seemed alright. But he told us there is a lad who regualry goes up there on his mx bike with no registration plate ect. and just rides where ever he wants.

Its a fun day out though. Although when i went it was vey dry and dusty, i imagine it would be much more fun in the wet Smile
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ben_wheely wrote:
Yeah, when we went up there, we bumped into a warden who seemed alright. But he told us there is a lad who regualry goes up there on his mx bike with no registration plate ect. and just rides where ever he wants.

Its a fun day out though. Although when i went it was vey dry and dusty, i imagine it would be much more fun in the wet Smile


From what I know if you do get stopped, it's lid off and polite chat however cross or not the Warden may be and certainly make sure they can see you are at least trying to keep to the lanes, so maps/GPS at the ready!

We tend to avoid it when very dry for that reason, but in the wet it's very tricky, as there is a lot of slippery chalk. Whatever you do be very careful with any standing water - some of it is seriously deep and there have been a few bike fatalities as a result of 'submarining'!! Shocked

This DRZ didin't 'die' but the rider was extremely unpopular as it took half an hour to push the bike out of the water and another half hour to get it working again - it was scorching hot (Sept last year) and we were on a timed exercise at the time (hence the hi-viz)!! We'd all been told to stay out of water in case it was deep - tbh it's the mud at the bottom that causes the biggest issue!
https://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr344/Tonkatoo_2008/th_ditch_2.jpg

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PostPosted: 12:30 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korn (think with Ste) had a story about how he got stopped by some really pissed army person - who was annoyed with the sentries he had posted in his exercise who had failed to stop two loud motorbikes, so probably weren't going to have noticed 'the enemy' sneaking past either - he was apparently happy to direct the bikes back out of the exercise area.
Tonka wrote:

TBH the whole Plain is absolutely covered in Byeways, so there really is no excuse for just forging your own way wherever you choose. I've got the map out right here and it's covered in bright green highlighter!!

Unfortunately the 'tank trials' bit isn't a byway and that's the really fun bit. Hopefully they'd just tell you to go away though as it's not like you're be messing up the land.
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wiltshire near Salisbury Plain. Burcombe for these pics.
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Near Stonehenge for these ones
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard loads of stories like that about those wardens who apparently patrol the plain looking for people who've gone off of legit byways, but I've yet to hear or read anything from anyone who has had their bike/car taken by the wardens. As long as you use a bit of common sense then you're not going to get into trouble. Stay away from crop fields, nature reserves, residential areas and anywhere else where your presence might annoy someone. Stick to the areas that the army drive around in their tanks and blow up with their tanks.

G wrote:
Korn (think with Ste) had a story about how he got stopped by some really pissed army person - who was annoyed with the sentries he had posted in his exercise who had failed to stop two loud motorbikes, so probably weren't going to have noticed 'the enemy' sneaking past either - he was apparently happy to direct the bikes back out of the exercise area.

That was really quite good, "how the fuck did you not notice those bikes?!?"

They were happy to direct us out of the area (lol) and to point out on our maps where else they were doing stuff that day so that we could go anywhere else. I got the impression that they really don't care where people go as long as people stay out of their way.

Have ended up in red flagged areas before and when getting to a manned barrier they were asking about how we ended up there because it shouldn't have been possible, and they were also quite interested in use leaving quickly before they got in trouble for us being there.

If you manage to get somewhere that you're not supposed to be then it's them who gets in lots of trouble.

If you're going to the Plain then this is where you need to go. Watch out for the deep ruts. Razz
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol thought i recognised these pics, i was on the autumn wander also, was a great weekend, altho give me a hotel room any day over camping in that field (my summer sleepingbag was a mistake)

the salisbury lanes are great, i love a ride with no unnecessary tarmac in between

Tonka wrote:
This DRZ didin't 'die' but the rider was extremely unpopular as it took half an hour to push the bike out of the water and another half hour to get it working again - it was scorching hot (Sept last year) and we were on a timed exercise at the time (hence the hi-viz)!! We'd all been told to stay out of water in case it was deep - tbh it's the mud at the bottom that causes the biggest issue!
https://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr344/Tonkatoo_2008/th_ditch_2.jpg

https://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr344/Tonkatoo_2008/th_ditch_3.jpg

Fun times!! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 16:00 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

danmoto wrote:
lol thought i recognised these pics, i was on the autumn wander also, was a great weekend, altho give me a hotel room any day over camping in that field (my summer sleepingbag was a mistake)

the salisbury lanes are great, i love a ride with no unnecessary tarmac in between


Thumbs Up Cool - hello!! Mr. Green Hmmm, I froze to death in my summer sleeping bag that weekend too! I did the February Winter Wander with my winter one though and was fine. The Euro Trail I've just been on was an experience and a half!! Talking of which would you recommend that campsite? I wasn't sure whether it was bike friendly for the odd ones and twos or just because there were 50+ of us? We stayed in a lovely one near The White Horse, Oxfordshire for the Spring Wander, but think that's too far north for the Plains.

Anyway, there is a weekend rideout scheduled for September which should be great - if you're interested get signed up!
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 15 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great stuff, cheers guys Thumbs Up

I got an OS map today, you arent wrong about the amount of byways!

I imagine its going to quite muddy after all this rain we have had, so i might have to avoid the really muddy sections as im using Michelin Sirac tyres - although i guess that might just add to the fun... Shocked Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that was great fun Very Happy

Some red flags were up so that limited where we could go but fun was definatly had.
Just wish i lived a little closer.

Im going to head down there again in a few weeks, maybe over the weekend though in the hope the army arent out playing.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool!! Mr. Green Glad you enjoyed it - it's definitely better after some seriously wet weather, but at least at this time of year it's warm!

If you're heading down for a weekend 'shout' as I can recommend some campsites/places that will put you in the middle of a number of green lanes and sort out some maps so that you can get a few days out with some variety!

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PostPosted: 19:59 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Tonka Thumbs Up

We stayed at Stonehenge campsite in Orchestron, and took the track upto the village where they were doing an exercise. The squaddies were ok with us, they seemed more interested in moaning about the ramblers Laughing

Then we ended up near Tidworth, the tank tracks that criss cross everywhere, although we took notice of the 'no civilian vehicles' signage.

So then we took a byway that brought us out at the airfield, and then we went just south of Salisbury and rode the 13 mile byway that goes past the racecourse.

A thoroughly good time was had, and im itching to get back down there Smile
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 22 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds awesome. Must get my arse in gear and get the GasGas dirty again....
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