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PostPosted: 09:40 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Fire-Bikes! Reply with quote
Firefighters on Merseyside are piloting a new way of tackling fires - a motorbike fitted with water tanks and a high-pressure jet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10716414

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PostPosted: 09:46 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
A good idea Thumbs Up

He will be kept busy Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
I just hope he doesn't run with the hose and pull the bike over lol Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Its not a good idea, its just an excuse for fireman to get paid to ride motorcycles.
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
MarJay wrote:
Its not a good idea, its just an excuse for fireman to get paid to ride motorcycles.


1 guy 1 bike compared to a whole fire engine/ people for something like a car fire or similar small fires? I think its a good idea Shocked

Better/ more useful than a fireblade anyway Laughing

EDIT: Bet it gets their quicker than a fire engine too!
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
i think mayjay is right, no doubt the idea came from a firefighter who rides a bike Laughing

but like L4Isoside said, do your really need a whole fire engine for a small fire? i see the fire-brigade pull up out side house fires to only find out the resident put it out them selfs in the end
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Seems like a good idea to me - also presumably they can act as a 'first responder' and call in more resource if it's justified.

Wow, they actually found a good use for a BMW! Though a lighter bike with tweaked suspension would presumably still offer more capacity for the same agility.
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
MarJay wrote:
Its not a good idea, its just an excuse for fireman to get paid to ride motorcycles.


While I understand where you're coming from I still think it's a good idea.
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looks a good idea to me.

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PostPosted: 10:42 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've got an idea, I need to get to a TV site quickly for my job. The company should buy and equip a motorcycle for me for that specific purpose.

A motorcycle that will only allow me to do my job for 2.5 minutes... Thinking
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
MarJay wrote:
I've got an idea, I need to get to a TV site quickly for my job. The company should buy and equip a motorcycle for me for that specific purpose.

A motorcycle that will only allow me to do my job for 2.5 minutes... Thinking


If you can adequately complete your job in 2.5 minutes then there's clearly a justification. Particularly when the alternative is to send a truck the size of the moon with five people in it. It's a good idea.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Old idea, although they used to use sidecar outfits.

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PostPosted: 11:03 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
I agree good Idea, I wonder what the bike will handle like though Shocked
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
And the BBC are slow off the mark. This was in the Liverpool Echo two and a half years ago.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/01/24/fire-bike-blazes-a-trail-100252-20387716/
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think it's a good idea.

Does seem logical smaller vehicles for smaller incidents.



Plus with more members of authority riding bikes maybe our problems with blind cagers and road conditions might be slowly coming to light?

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PostPosted: 11:40 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
chris-red wrote:
I agree good Idea, I wonder what the bike will handle like though Shocked

Less badly than with a passenger probably, as should be less weight - and it's going to affect a bike setup to work as a heavy bike to start with less too.
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I agree good Idea, I wonder what the bike will handle like though Shocked

Less badly than with a passenger probably, as should be less weight - and it's going to affect a bike setup to work as a heavy bike to start with less too.


Depends how much water but I imagine it wouldn't be a little tank, I would have though 50 litres +, also it is 'deadweight' whereas pillions can move to aid in cornering.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
It says 2 x 25litre tanks in the bbc clip - so maybe 60kg including the tank.
The firehose sticking out the back is going to mess up the weight distribution more, but shouldn't weigh a massive amount.

With the suspension setup, I'd have thought you could get away with 100litres worth of tank, though you'd not want to use all from one side and none from the other.
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
chris-red wrote:
also it is 'deadweight' whereas pillions can move to aid in cornering.


if your pillion nows what their doing, Laughing (*gives other half the evils*) Folded arms
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Spit-Fire wrote:
chris-red wrote:
also it is 'deadweight' whereas pillions can move to aid in cornering.


if your pillion nows what their doing, Laughing (*gives other half the evils*) Folded arms


The amount of pillions I've had that lean the opposite way Shocked

Even if I stop and tell them not to and explain how stupid and dangerous it is they still do it. So there's people I don't take on the back anymore...
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kris wrote:
Old idea, although they used to use sidecar outfits. Karma


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I was thinking that; sure I saw an old motorbike in a museum kitted out for fire fighting; have a feeling that they used motor-cycles, side-car out-fits and push-bikes during the 'Blitz' for dealing with incendury devices.

Think the innovation in this one is probably the fire-fighting equipment; probably the 'foam' creating a large volume of 'retardant' from a small volume of water, and in getting it pressurised so that its small enough and compact enough to carry on a bike, while still having the 'balls' to put out a reasonable sized fire.

Once upon a time, I was working in a factory unit, closed for the week-end, sand-blasting teh steel work in the loading bay for painting, when the hired compressor for the blasting kit decided to go into 'run away'... its seals were shot, and it started burning its own sump oil, so killing it via the diesel supply did bog all, and theres a LOT of oil in a hydrovane compressor! started leaking out and cought fire! Horrible mess.

My reaction, thinking quickly for a 17yr-old, was to grab the fire-extinguisher out the van-cab!

That did a lot!

2.5Kg of talcum powder proppelled by a soda-syphon bulb!

I imagine that the idea behind it is for car-fires, probably the common one of twokkers burning them out on waste-ground.

Bike gets there quick; has enough on board to put out the car, and can do so before it spreads to trees or whatever on teh wast-ground or other cars ion a car-park or whatever.

As for the idea its a way for a biker to get his employer to buy him a bike.....

Err..... its a BMW!

He MUST have been pretty desperate! Must have been a Super-Dream rider!
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
MarJay wrote:
I've got an idea, I need to get to a TV site quickly for my job. The company should buy and equip a motorcycle for me for that specific purpose.


There's at least one pan that's been turned into an OB unit tooling around westminster.
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 23 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
nice post Karma i think itsb a great idea for small chavvy fires i.e. skips/cars stuff thats not an imediate danger to many houses or buildings.
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ollieholt wrote:
nice post Karma i think itsb a great idea for small chavvy fires i.e. skips/cars stuff thats not an imediate danger to many houses or buildings.


i dont.

it seems that chavs start these fires in order to attack the firefighters when they turn up to put it out. at least thats what local news reports would have me believe.

wouldnt fancy a lone firebikers chances against a chavvy mob.
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