Leniency of Motorbike Examiners

[danjameswhitt]

Now then,

I'm currently doing DAS with a local training school, had 4 hours worth of lessons last week and something is bugging me. 1) My instructor has barked at me over the radio a couple of times for not doing my lifesaver (i'm doing it, but apparently he thinks i'm not turning my head enough!), and 2), and i'll be the first to admit it, i've checked over the wrong side when preparing to turn, but realised my error and checked the other side as well before turning. Does anyone think either of these will result in me failing? And yes, i'm well aware that not doing a lifesaver before completing a manoeuver is a fail, just wondered if i'll get marked down for doing two checks and being over cautious?

[blade_boy]

you may get marked for being to cautious,

[N cee thirty]

your instructers being a wanker,if you turn your head anymore you'l take your eyes off the road too much any maybe have an accident
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[EUMP]

You have to do the 'over the top' looks, not saying don't do them after the test.. just saying make it 100% obvious
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[pinkyfloyd]

as most people have said, make it obvioius that your doing the checks.

i was told by the instructor on my DAS that a lifesaver check is a look to make sure theres nothing coming beside you. not behind, the mirrors are for that. and always look in the direction the bike is going to be going. unless its a roundabout then u do a right check as you leave the round about incase some bastard is trying to sneak in front of you.

there is no harm in checking both sides. i look to my left as i pass a junction on a roundabout and to the right as i leave the roundabout at the junction i need.

but remember, when doing a lifesaver your eyes arent in front of you so you can fail for over doing it.

same with mirrors. when your riding along you can glance in your mirror without moving your head. on the test you will have to emphasize your look so the examinor can see that your checking.
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Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[Crystal Tipps]

My instructor told me the examiner has to see the tip of your nose, so as the others have said above, it's making it an obvious look.

As for the left & right checks I've been told you wouldn't fail for doing both, but you would fail for not doing the correct one, ie I tend to automatically check over my left shoulder on a roundabout, and then remember I should actually be checking over my right...instructor said this quick check both ways would be fine.

You can be marked down for being over cautious coming up to junctions if you come to a stop when it's not necessary too often.
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[pinkyfloyd]

i had to do mod 2 three times, the first time was being over eager, second wasnt looking properly and the third i passed with a couple of minors for undue hesitation

i got minors for waiting when i should have gone and passed where the first time i got a fail for going when i should have waited.

doenst take a genious to work out that its better to get a minor for waiting than a fail for not waiting.

its finding the ballence. as my instructor said. if in doubt, chicken out!
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illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[27cows]

Yeah, you have to exaggerate everything for the examiner's benefit. It was like that even in the lenient 80s. I remember my instructor telling me that you had to ride in a way you never would in the real world in order to get the bit of paper, then you could ride 'properly' once your test was passed

By contrast, if you do advanced courses, you get a fail for moving your head to check mirrors.
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