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Itchy
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: CRB checks? Reply with quote

Hi

How do I get one for myself?

How much does it cost and how long does it take?

In that I read on the home office website:

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CRB checks cannot be obtained by members of the public directly but are only available to organisations and only for those professions, offices, employments, work and occupations listed in the Exceptions Order to the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974.

For this reason your application will be processed either by your employer, if it is registered with the CRB, or a third party organisation, called an Umbrella Body, which is registered with the CRB.


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PostPosted: 14:42 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:19 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you need a CRB?
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You, as an individual, cannot obtain a CRB standard or enhanced disclosure off your own back.

The purpose of a CRB disclosure is to provide an employer or volunteer organiser a full view of an individual's criminal history solely so that they make a recruitment decision. This is a confidential document, and cannot be transferred to another organisation without your express consent (under the terms of CRB guidelines, which are statutory).

The copy that you get as part of the process is yours to do with as you please, however an organisation may not demand to see it as part of their recruitment process; they commit an offence under part V of the police act if they do so (The reasoning being that if they are eligible to receive a disclosure, then they must apply for one rather than trying to dodge the fee. If they are not eligible, then they've no business asking).

Broadly speaking, if an organisation needs a disclosure, then they need to apply for it. There is no statutory requirement for them to cover the fee, although most will do so.

There are three types of disclosures (four, if you count the ACRO reports for emigration/visa purposes).

The first, which you can apply for as an individual, is a 'basic disclosure', available from Disclosure Scotland. This only shows unspent convictions. This will not show cautions.

The second is a 'standard disclosure', obtained from the CRB. This will show both spent and unspent convictions. This includes cautions, regardless of the age.

The third is an 'enhanced disclosure'. This is, again, from the CRB, and this will show all spent and unspent convictions (including cautions). It will also show, if the post is eligible and the check is requested, if you are on the ISA adult or children's barred lists. It will also include 'relevant' police information, which may include warnings, reprimands or any other PNC information that the specific force deems relevant.

Both the standard and enhanced disclosures include the facility to include 'brown envelope' information- this is where information is disclosed only to the employer. This is exceedingly rare, and only occurs when someone is under active investigation (less than 5 instances last year, iirc).
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

An important thing to remember with CRBs is that if you have a valid recent CRB a new company may say they require one issue from them (although as said most wont expect you to pay for it).

At one point I had 3 CRBs all valid (last 2 years) due to new job needing one issued from them.

From what I hear they are in the middle of changing the system so you access some big database instead of a certificate saying "at this day you didnt have a criminal record". Not idea when it comes into force though Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From what I hear they are in the middle of changing the system so you access some big database instead of a certificate saying "at this day you didnt have a criminal record". Not idea when it comes into force though


Please, please, please... don't get multijoy started on the new scheme - I get enough of that at home! Very Happy Wink
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multijoy
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adamantis wrote:
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From what I hear they are in the middle of changing the system so you access some big database instead of a certificate saying "at this day you didnt have a criminal record". Not idea when it comes into force though


Please, please, please... don't get multijoy started on the new scheme - I get enough of that at home! Very Happy Wink


Bwa ha ha!

What you're referring to is the 'Vetting and Barring Scheme'.

This, basically, would have been a facility to show that an individual was not known to be a wrong 'un. It wasn't designed to be a CRB replacement; the system would still let you work with children and vulnerable adults even if you were some sort of serial n'er do well.

A serial car thief, for example, doesn't pose a specific risk of harm to children or vulnerable adults, so there would be no reason for them to be automatically barred from doing that work. For some organisations, that would be enough- all they care about is making sure they're not employing a nonce.

However, the CRB system would run alongside to allow those organisations who had a specific interest in the full history to have access to those details- schools, for example, are keen to ensure that the teachers are of good standing and probably wouldn't want to employ a serial car thief.

As to where it is... The minister has announced that the VBS will be halted, whilst it is scaled back to common sense (ha!) levels. This will, most likely, run in conjunction with a CRB review at the same time.

Christ only knows when it will be announced, however.
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