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SlimRick
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 27 Jul 2010    Post subject: Track day cars Reply with quote

Rather than hoon the Audi estate around a track, I seem to have bought this bad boy:

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1996 328i

Should be picking it up this weekend and start stripping it out as soon as poss Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

Anyone else do 4 wheel track days?
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 27 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were a few from here who went on a car trackday, IIRC Bendy & Binge...

I would liked to have attended, but was having overheating problems at the time. I've cured that now, so am still keen.

Perhaps we could have an official BCF car trackday, hmmmmm.....
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 27 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never been to a track day as such as of yet, but frequently go to a place called Crail raceway ( https://www.crailraceway.co.uk ) and do some 1/4 mile runs and drifting on the oval; which is ideal for your Beemer. Wink

Will hopefully make it to Knockhill before the end of the year.
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 27 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

328 is a good basis for a track hack, but you need to go the whole hog with tough coilovers, fancy anti roll bars etc.

My 325i is 'partially' track prepared with Koni street shocks and lowering springs, rear strut brace and tarty brake discs and pads. It still rolls like a bastard when ever shown any kind of corner.

Do the M50 intake mod and gain an almost free 20bhp on the 328.
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 28 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange, I never really thought BMWs suffer body roll of any significance, at least i've never experienced it in the E36 or E39. If I was going to do a few car trackdays and I had the space i'd do exactly what you've done, buy an E36 328, cheap power and no turbo. Unfortunately I don't have the space, or I could make the space but don't want a stripped out Beemer sat there 363 days a year.
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PostPosted: 01:00 - 28 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats what always puts me off about track cars, it will be sat on the drive 360+ days a year taking up too much space.

I'd love to have a car called a Jedi for track days. Bike engine in a single seater Drooling

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PostPosted: 10:28 - 28 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're taking out the aircon (guessing not though), I'd be interested in a pipe from it. Need a driver's door with working window too, but suspect that's even less likely!

DaFrostyOne wrote:
Thats what always puts me off about track cars, it will be sat on the drive 360+ days a year taking up too much space.

I'd love to have a car called a Jedi for track days. Bike engine in a single seater Drooling

At the moment my track bike gets used maybe 5 times a year in total.
However, I still think it's worth it... but then I don't have the space for a track car, while a bike can be squeezed in more easily.
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 28 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

been trying to get two mate who think they are the next f1 prodigy to go on some, but they want to take there road cars (daily drives)
is that a good idea?, how likely are you to damage your car
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 28 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spit-Fire wrote:

is that a good idea?, how likely are you to damage your car


Depends if you're being a dick or not, and if other people are.

I've done 3 car trackdays, don't think anyone suffered significant damage on any of them. It's not like bike trackdays though, you can take a bike on a trackday and it has no effect on it whatsoever. Car trackdays stink of clutch, brakes and overheating engines.
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 28 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be ok for one, but expect them to get through a lot of brake pad, clutch, tyre and bushing wear.

Stock bikes handle trackdays a hell of a lot better than even pretty expensive stock cars - ie seen plenty of newish 911s with smoke pouring from their brakes.

In the end, while a bike is taking relatively light forces in the normal direction of travel (due to leaning), the car is having to stop 1.5-2t of stuff trying to slide at 90 degrees to the action of the wheels, as well as stop all that weight etc on stuff designed for daily use getting to the shops.
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 28 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
Strange, I never really thought BMWs suffer body roll of any significance, at least i've never experienced it in the E36 or E39. If I was going to do a few car trackdays and I had the space i'd do exactly what you've done, buy an E36 328, cheap power and no turbo. Unfortunately I don't have the space, or I could make the space but don't want a stripped out Beemer sat there 363 days a year.


On the road it is perfect and it glides along the straights and slices through the corners as well as a 15 year old car can, but on the track it is totally and utterly outclassed, even with my minor mods.

The brakes are good though.
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 28 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spit-Fire wrote:
been trying to get two mate who think they are the next f1 prodigy to go on some, but they want to take there road cars (daily drives)
is that a good idea?, how likely are you to damage your car


just don't have a Doh moment like i did at Knockhill, i was based in Teesside at the time so it could have been a lot lot worse. thankfully for me, my problems were just mud causing wheel balance issues

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didn't stop me though went on to do Crail and other track days
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 28 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My line manager at work built a Caterham-type kit car some years ago. I'd never been on a track in it, but it was plenty fast enough even on the road for me...

Also driven a 5 litre Ford Mustang on a private road, and managed to spin the tyres in 1st, 2nd, 3rd AND 4th - that was an experience
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 28 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheap handling mod, Bin the lower arms with their gay plastic mounted ball joints and replace with Lemforder E30 items, while your at it call into your local BMW dealership and get a pair of E30 M3 offset wishbone bushes (about £23 the pair) Thumbs Up

No more wobbly plastic mounted ball joints and the altered castor angle means a sharper turn in and better steering feel Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 28 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look tidy. Needs some go faster stickers and sun strip. Cool
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picked it up yesterday morning from Kettering, this morning I bought a new battery for it, put in some fresh petrol and it fired up on the first turn after standing for 2 years Laughing Laughing Laughing

Took it out for a little test drive on a private road and succeeded in leaving some rather tasty black stripes on the tarmac Laughing

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PostPosted: 17:30 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any reason you didn't get a track bike instead?
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to see that chief. Think I might give Cadwell a miss this Tuesday after seeing that. Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlucky Blue!!!
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarkJ wrote:
Any reason you didn't get a track bike instead?


Nope - no reason at all. Just fancied a track car.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering I paid £300 for mine, they're almost disposable anyway Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 8's my main transport, and worth a fair bit. Don't think I'd fancy stuffing it.
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