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sweetleaf
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 30 Jul 2010    Post subject: MOT and Center Stand Reply with quote

I recently brought myself my first bike - a little SR125. No MOT or Tax but seemed clean enough ...

Stuck it in the local Yamaha garage and initial quote was £500 to get it through the MOT. Anyway, after a bit of negotiation, they're just going to sort out the clutch and carb for me and I'll do the rest (interesting as I've not worked on a bike before).

One thing that's knackered is the center stand. I can get one off eBay cheaply enough, but I was wondering if I really need to replace it for the bike to pass the MOT or can I just remove it?
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 30 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Centre stand isn't needed for the MOT.

They're handy to have for when working on the bike, and certainely handy for lubing the chain etc.. but any cheapy paddock stand will do you as well.
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 30 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikes doesn't need a stand for MOT.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 30 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously not to the extent where the bike would be unsafe, but I've found generic garages who have someone who's qualified to do bikes are far less picky with MOT's than bike dealership garages.

I've had bikes MOT'd at a Honda shop and while there were no serious points it did need some work. I took it away did some of it then stuck it in a local MOT centre which does everything (vans cars bikes etc) and they passed it without any problems.

Most recently, I stuck my BMW in there with a chain well past its sell by date and they passed it. Admittedly they were going to fail it because the horn didn't work, I had to hide behind the bike and make honking noises. I'm joking, they let me fix it there and then and it eventually passed.

Don't automatically go to dealerships, I use them for parts but thats about it.

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PostPosted: 14:31 - 30 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys - saved me a few much needed pennies. Thumbs Up

A friend of mine works in the shop attached to the garage, so while it's probably not the cheapest place to go, I thought it might be the best place for me at the moment.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pa_broon74 wrote:
Obviously not to the extent where the bike would be unsafe, but I've found generic garages who have someone who's qualified to do bikes are far less picky with MOT's than bike dealership garages.Thumbs Up


In forty odd years of riding I've always found that a dedicated bike shop is better than a generic garage that happens to do bikes as well. The guys in the bike shop usually know all the wrinkles associated with your bike - often before you do. They are invariably bikers themselves and understand how to look after a bike. They also have limited budgets and will usually advise you along lines of "the gizmo will need changing soon, but it's ok for another xxxx miles" whereas a generic tester will only test and take your cash - bike specific advice is usually extra and usually unavailable.
There are other advantages to a bike shop too - there is usually a small crowd in the shop who are happy to talk bikes with you - really useful if you are a relatively new biker I should think, but enjoyable even when you're an old fart like me. You can look around whilst you're there - you might be tempted to part with some cash for those nice new boots, or you might just look, but at least you'll know they are there when you do want new boots. And of course any decent bike shop will lend you a bike whilst yours is in their garage - great if you want to test ride a particular model and essential if you want to drop your bike off in the morning on the way to work and pick it up on the way home.
Now, remind me again why you would even think of taking the old girl down to the local Nissan dealer??????
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

gooner wrote:

Now, remind me again why you would even think of taking the old girl down to the local Nissan dealer??????


Because I know exactly what is wrong with my bike, and don't want to fix it just yet. It might be something simple like the indicators don't flash at the correct rate, or the tyre that could do with changing but still has a couple of weeks off gentle commuting til payday...


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PostPosted: 11:26 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

gooner wrote:

In forty odd years of riding I've always found that a dedicated bike shop is better than a generic garage that happens to do bikes as well. The guys in the bike shop usually know all the wrinkles associated with your bike - often before you do. They are invariably bikers themselves and understand how to look after a bike. They also have limited budgets and will usually advise you along lines of "the gizmo will need changing soon, but it's ok for another xxxx miles" whereas a generic tester will only test and take your cash - bike specific advice is usually extra and usually unavailable.
There are other advantages to a bike shop too - there is usually a small crowd in the shop who are happy to talk bikes with you - really useful if you are a relatively new biker I should think, but enjoyable even when you're an old fart like me. You can look around whilst you're there - you might be tempted to part with some cash for those nice new boots, or you might just look, but at least you'll know they are there when you do want new boots. And of course any decent bike shop will lend you a bike whilst yours is in their garage - great if you want to test ride a particular model and essential if you want to drop your bike off in the morning on the way to work and pick it up on the way home.
Now, remind me again why you would even think of taking the old girl down to the local Nissan dealer??????


If all you want is an MOT certificate, I still maintain a generic MOT test station is a better bet. I don't know what bike dealerships round your gaff are like, but if I asked for a loan bike while mine was in having something done to it, they'd smile benignly and tell me to come back in a hour after a nice walk.

As to the rest, I wouldn't trust a dealership to tell me what needed replaced, they're a business and as I see it: the opposition. Its their job to take as much of my money from me as they can and its my job to see that they don't. To blithely and blindly trust the advice of a dealership because you get some good chat in the shop is a bit naive.

But as I say, that might just be the dealerships round my way. Of course they're not all like that, the Suzuki dealership in Edinburgh gets a good press. On the other hand, the Honda dealership while good for parts, everything else is strictly by the book, if they judge something to be at the end of its life they'll tell you to replace it, even if it has thousands of miles still left in it. (Although in their defence, they did let me fix my REG/REC with a bit of wire and polo wrapper when it failed to start during an MOT.)

Also as pyro points out, knowing your way round your bike can save you hundreds of pounds. I just did the water pump and cylinder head gasket on my BMW, that lot would've cost more than the bikes worth to get done in a workshop, fair enough if you've got the money but not so much so if you don't.

(Although I will admit, several times, usually in between streams of invective I did mutter to myself; 'I should've just paid some bugger to do this...' It was a bastard of a job.)

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PostPosted: 12:14 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i can't be arsed reading all of the post, but i'd have to agree with above, normal bike shops see an opportunity to make money on top of the mot costs, if they fail the bike, a car mechanic, well he usually doesnt have a clue Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here in N.I we dont have a choice as to were we get our mot testing done as all mot centres are goverment run and all the testers are civil servants with even minor faults requiring a retest and an extra retest fee, this system has its advantages and disadvantages such as long waiting times (up to 2 months) and we are also required to display an mot disc but the centres cannot have any other financial gain other than the test fee.
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