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PostPosted: 21:58 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: What model and bike? Reply with quote

Righteo, got my mind set on three bikes, but as I can't ride them yet wanted to know what people thought of them as performing etc.

I found the 2002 GSXR uncomfortable on the arms as I'm 6"7 and more of a stretch to the handlebars over the tank also the manual choke idea put me off, but was in great condition with 3k miles and a nice movistar decal kit. (£2500)

The 2004 GSXR was more comfortable and felt more protected within the bike and easier to reach the handlebars without strain as the previous model, but I find them very common in the blue and white paintjob on the roads and this puts me off to be honest, yet had an arrow aftermarket exhaust fitted, 7k miles with damage to the left fairing (£3865)

The 2003 ZXR looks alot more fearce than the others and is better performing, but not as comfortable as the 2004 GSXR, but felt like it would be alot more playful than them both, can't remember the milage but was in showroom condition with no stratches or anything (£3650)

So the above three is what im looking at right now, take a note the bike being bought would be 33bhp restricted as I would be on the A2 licence.
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are you concerned with performance if its going to be restricted? When people say one performs better than the other it might be 2bhp more top end, or 3bhp more in the mid range. Anybody riding a 600 on the roads hard enough to really notice this difference is not long for this world. After just passing your test you definitely wouldn't or at least shouldn't be riding like that. Why would it matter than one makes 118bhp and one 120, when they are both getting capped at 33 anyway? Laughing

I would have thought that being 6"7 you would want a bike with more of a reach to the bars? Or was it that the bars were too low? Sports bikes don't fit tall people very well and get even more uncomfortable when on the move as the fairing will be useless Laughing

Go with whichever you like the look of an can afford. Shiny plastics are good, but the majority of people drop a bike at some point when they've not been riding long, and that could easily knock £1000 of the value of a £5000 bike.

Also a manual choke is in no way at all a problem and should never put you off buying anything. In summer it's not needed. In winter stick it on full if in doubt and keep backing it down till the revs return to normal. You would expect the choke to be completely off after about 5-10 seconds. If anything i'd be put off something with an automatic choke as bikes aren't very reliable and its something complex and expensive to break Karma
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Shiny plastics are good, but the majority of people drop a bike at some point when they've not been riding long, and that could easily knock £1000 of the value of a £5000 bike.


Exactly why i went for an old unfaired bike, and sure enough, 6 days after i bought it i came off. I dread to think how expensive that would have been if it had lots of plastic Shocked .
That is in no way trying to put you off though, my off was because of the age of the bike (Knackered shocks) Which really shouldn't be a problem with a new bike anyway Wink

Just go for what puts the biggest smile on your face, even better if its the cheapest. After all, you've got to get it restricted too!

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What happened to the ZXR400/VFR400 idea??? Thinking
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 31 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plan to keep this bike for the restriction and after the restriction, when the restriction period is ended I would want to take it down the track for some rubber burning Wink sport bikes aren't that bad for me to be honest, most people believe they would be crap for anyone over 6"2, no idea where that really came from as I can reach the floor and the handlebars fine and lay on the tank and it aids me better as the air pressure would hit against my chest reducing the tension on my wrists Smile

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What happened to the ZXR400/VFR400 idea??? Thinking


Everyone told me (generally people smaller than me) that they found it to small and often bashed their legs against the fairings etc, couldn't find many about in dealers (don't want to waste people selling private's time)
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

No way a 2003 ZX6R is worth 3650. That's daft money for them now.

I got mind for £3200 with 8k miles, that was mint and last year!
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
No way a 2003 ZX6R is worth 3650. That's daft money for them now.

I got mind for £3200 with 8k miles, that was mint and last year!


I know, but remember it's dealer prices lol Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

EUMP wrote:
Big_Ham wrote:
No way a 2003 ZX6R is worth 3650. That's daft money for them now.

I got mind for £3200 with 8k miles, that was mint and last year!


I know, but remember it's dealer prices lol Laughing


Mine was from a dealer too.

They're having you on. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 01 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mine was from a dealer too.

They're having you on. Thumbs Up


Ah, well that price does include the MOT for a year + tax and a 3month warrantry (they offer all that jibba jabba on all the bikes)
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah, well that price does include the MOT for a year + tax and a 3month warrantry (they offer all that jibba jabba on all the bikes)


Mine had 12 months MOT, but no tax, so that was £66 and 6 month warranty.

It's up to you, but I wouldn't pay £3650 for a 2003 ZX6R anymore. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:

Mine had 12 months MOT, but no tax, so that was £66 and 6 month warranty.

It's up to you, but I wouldn't pay £3650 for a 2003 ZX6R anymore. Thumbs Up


Yeah? I knew it would be over priced as it's a dealer, seen some on the old ebay for about £2700-3700 that are 2003 plated so will have a look and wait for a bargin on that I think Wink
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

£8k will get you a brand new one. 2003 is a 7 year old bike Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah? I knew it would be over priced as it's a dealer, seen some on the old ebay for about £2700-3700 that are 2003 plated so will have a look and wait for a bargin on that I think Wink


Fair play, I sold my 2004(04) bike for £3k in the end, and I was quite lucky to get that at the time.

You should be able to get a C5/6H, or even a P7F for 3.5 - 4k I reckon.

Earlier in the year I saw a dealer selling off brand new pre-regged C5/C6s for 4.5k.

As a case in point:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201030364371321/sort/priceasc/usedbikes/maximum-age/up_to_5_years_old/engine-size-bikes/625cc_to_825cc/model/zx/make/kawasaki/postcode/sg28yl/radius/1501/page/1?logcode=p

(I admit that's a sale price, but I reckon you'd be able to a bit off him still)
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 02 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yeah, im not sure what it is about the bike that does it for me, but I'm set on it, how did you find riding it etc?
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 03 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yeah, im not sure what it is about the bike that does it for me, but I'm set on it, how did you find riding it etc?


B1H?

It was mega.

Great engine, great induction roar. Very nimble, awesome brakes.

Just be a bit careful when pressing on over bumpy roads if you're a bit light as it will shake it's head a bit. I only had a few bad (lock to lock) tank slappers, but I'm really light and it was on B roads when I was hammering it.

All in all well worth it if you can find a decent one for decent money.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 03 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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B1H?

It was mega.

Great engine, great induction roar. Very nimble, awesome brakes.

Just be a bit careful when pressing on over bumpy roads if you're a bit light as it will shake it's head a bit. I only had a few bad (lock to lock) tank slappers, but I'm really light and it was on B roads when I was hammering it.

All in all well worth it if you can find a decent one for decent money.


What I was hoping to hear - excluding the tank slapping haha
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